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Gig Etiquette Rant...

In my last band, we were frequently complimented by event organizers for being on time and set up, sound-checked and ready well in advance of show time. With our day jobs, all but our singer were involved in sales/marketing and we were treating this with a business ethos as well as simply loving to play out. We did a lot of shows over 10 years (200 or so). Lots of repeat gigs.

That being said, one show comes to mind where our drummer wanted to move everything about 30 feet from our trailer to 10 feet from the stage. The vibe I got from him was that he was attempting to get the duo playing at the time to wrap up early. It wasn't our time yet and I didn't want to see that happen. It was a lot of griping back and forth between him and me, and he couldn't rally the other band members. I finally got him to stop by pointing out that if I am picking up equipment, I am only moving it once, and 40 feet isn't that much different than 30.
 
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It feels even worse when you get told by the festival organizers that they need to cut your and the next band’s scheduled slots to 25 minutes each because the previous four bands took so long to get on and off stage that they were running late for the headliner’s start time.

It got even more annoying when the “manager” of the band after us (another nobody band just like ours) came over and insisted we give up our slot so his band could play a full set because they had “family” at the show.

I don’t get it. All the bands I was ever in could get set up in 10 minutes or less. And we could get our gear off a stage in uner five.
 
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It feels even worse when you get told by the festival organizers that they need to cut your and the next band’s scheduled slots to 25 minutes each because the previous four bands took so long to get on and off stage that they were running late for the headliner’s start time.

It got even more annoying when the “manager” of the band after us (another nobody band just like ours) came over and insisted we give up our slot so his band could play a full set because they had “family” at the show.

I don’t get it. All the bands I was ever in could get set up in 10 minutes or less. And we could get our gear off a stage in five.

Happens to us frequently too.

That was one of the main reasons we switched to the single mic and bass DI setup for our outdoor spots.
 
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I have been gigging for almost 20 years and one of the most important rules is, stay off the stage until the band before you has cleared all their gear before you start setting up.
Guy setting up while you play is unacceptable, but in a tight bill it may be ok to start setting up while the other band is tearing down. Especially when the other group had no idea how to efficiently get the heck off stage
 
If my load-in consists of two items (bass gig bag and small pedal board case), I'll pack it up while on stage, 'cause I can get it done in a couple of minutes. If I have to move two basses, amp and cab, and pedal board & accessories, I just get it all off the stage as quickly as I can, and pack it nicely off stage.
What can I say, I’m really fast.
 
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Happens to us frequently too.

That was one of the main reasons we switched to the single mic and bass DI setup for our outdoor spots.

Our two secret weapons were: our drummer having a kit that had a quick setup feature that worked something like a locking nut. Once he got his setup adjusted the way he liked everything locked down. After that it just sorta snapped together. The other was we rehearsed our set ups and pack outs so they went super smoothly.
 
Happens to us frequently too.

That was one of the main reasons we switched to the single mic and bass DI setup for our outdoor spots.

Our two secret weapons were: our drummer having a kit that had a quick setup feature that worked something like a locking nut. Once he got his setup adjusted the way he liked everything locked down. After that it just sorta snapped together. The other was we rehearsed our set ups and pack outs so they went super smoothly.
 
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Guy setting up while you play is unacceptable, but in a tight bill it may be ok to start setting up while the other band is tearing down. Especially when the other group had no idea how to efficiently get the heck off stage

Ideally, the bands all arrive early enough to stage their gear at the back or the edges of the stage, so all that has to happen when one band finishes is for them to clear their stuff off and the next band to do a quick setup. I realize this isn't always feasible and sometimes we just have to work around each other's tight schedules.

At the very least though, if you feel a need to be on the stage while another band is setting up or tearing down, the least you can do is ask permission and make sure you aren't interfering. I still think there's no good excuse to be doing that while someone else is performing though. Unless you're part of the act, don't be on the stage.