I always heard Ginger Baker was a Jazz guy, but this is the first time I ever saw him play Jazz. Charlie Haden is the perfect supportive bassist for this trio.
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Ginger Baker, Bill Frisell, Charlie Haden
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I always heard Ginger Baker was a Jazz guy, but this is the first time I ever saw him play Jazz. Charlie Haden is the perfect supportive bassist for this trio.
I've got to agree with you. Wonder how they got along considering Ginger's reputation. Unusual guitar Frisell is playing.
I've seen this one before. Charlie's almost off stage. I assume to protect his ears. He was quite sensitive to even moderate volumes.
It looks like it could be a Klein…
Those emerged in the 90's, Lou Reed played one for awhile, then Mick Karn moved from Wal to one of their fretless basses.
I've watched Haden's "In the Moment" from this concert countless times. (It starts around 40:36 here.)
What a great combination of players. Most of the compositions are Ginger's. He seems very happy here, and yes-- he was a bona fide jazz musician.
What a great combination of players. Most of the compositions are Ginger's. He seems very happy here, and yes-- he was a bona fide jazz musician.
Yup, he was doing it to protect his ears, well, iirc, to minimize the pain in his already damaged ears. Read an interview where he said he had developed hyperacusis from playing with Coleman's first electric group. Which is the opposite of what you would expect from being exposed to high volumes, but it's definitely a thing some people get. I've wondered whether childhood polio left him more vulnerable to this.
Protect your hearing, folks! There's all kinds of hearing problems, and most of the common ones are preventable!
There's also a few recordings of Jack Bruce in jazz situations as well. What was really unique about Cream's lengthy jams compared to the millions of rock bands that tried to do the same thing…Jack and Ginger had a deep background in jazz improvisation.
This one sounds like they've spent some time listening to Ornette Coleman. Recorded in 1968.
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Same song as above, Over the Cliff, recorded live with Ginger on drums and Jack playing a Warwick instead of an upright, recorded in 1990.
This one sounds like they've spent some time listening to Ornette Coleman. Recorded in 1968.
FOLLOWUP
Same song as above, Over the Cliff, recorded live with Ginger on drums and Jack playing a Warwick instead of an upright, recorded in 1990.
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I forget Ginger was a Jazz guy too! In my day it was Baker, Bonham, and Moon. Yup, I'm old (Krupa and Rich too).
Charlie had three daughters who recorded a bluegrass album. The sister harmonies are fantastic. I believe they are triplets, and one is married to Jack Black.
And Mitchell and Watts! They were jazz musicians, too, like Baker.
Moon and Ringo weren't, but their idols were jazz drummers.
JazznFunk
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If you like this video, then dig up Ginger's 2 records he made with this group.... 'Falling Off The Roof' and 'Going Back Home'. 2 of my favorites that I need to pull out again. Thanks for the reminder!
JazznFunk
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I feel the same about most drummers too. I have to wear earplugs with most, even at low volumes. Depends on the room and the drummer.
JazznFunk
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Hyperacusis is debilitatingly painful... I can see that being one of the only solutions in extreme cases.
