Are the Goldline cabinets any better than the standard BLX cabinets? And if so are they better than Neo series
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GK cab question?
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No they are not better than the BLX and no where even close to the quality of the NEO series. They are starter cabs made only for M.F. et all.
No trouble. They have the aluminum cones for mid bite but really don't hold up under power any better than the BLX. Look for used SBX, RBH, RBX, MBX or MBE, NEOs new (the RBH are still available new but they are pricey).
B-string said:
Yes my dream cab setup one day will be a 4x10 and 1x15 rbh and a 8x10 neo but my current setup works just fine for now
Too old myself to shlep RBH cabs 
My NEO412 is as far as I'll go these days, I just added a NEO212 II for the smaller venues.
My NEO412 is as far as I'll go these days, I just added a NEO212 II for the smaller venues.
Hate to rain on someone's "dream", but that set-up, (410/115), is one of the worst ever. Don't fall for marketing hype. Read much more about this in any of around 2 million threads on the subject.
B-string said:Too old myself to shlep RBH cabs
Yeah i'm just starting out i'm only 15 so i'm gonna have to see how much i can work and save every penny and see where i'm at by fall
RickenBoogie said:
Well if they are such horrible cabs then why do some of the best bass players in the world use them like Duff Mckagen, Tim Foreman, Justin Chancellor, and Flea?
They’re going to tell you it's because those bassist don’t know what they’re doing, lol.
1) I bet most people here on TB that disapprove of GK 410/115 stacks have never tried them.
2) I bet Flea likes his 410/115 stacks.
3) I’ve tried the 410/115 stack and like 115/115 stacks better.
4) get whatever you like
way back in the day, I was your age and I had a Goldine 2X10. Just 4 days before I turned 16 I blew then thing with only 125 watts. You would be much happier with even an MB Combo or mbe cab. The newer low end GK seem to be more solid too.
Are any of those "professionals" degreed audio engineers or speaker cab designers ?
Are any of those "pros" versed in the physics of how speakers work (displacement, power handling, phasing, comb filtering) ?
They’re going to tell you it's because those bassist don’t know what they’re doing, lol.
1) I bet most people here on TB that disapprove of GK 410/115 stacks have never tried them.
You would be wrong.
Additionally, it is backed up the dozens of threads on this forum alone where a member posts about "frying" their 1X15 cab, only to find out that it was because it was combined with a 4X10.
There will always be exceptions - but for example, have you tired it (GKs)? Btw, I’m not recommending, just pointing out some facts.
Joe Louvar said:
Yes i rented a 1001rb ii, 4x10 and a 1x15 rbh for a gig and also used my BL600 as a preamp to the 1001 and i absolutely loved the tone but i'm more worried about long term durability
Try both cabs by themselves.
Pick which ever one sounds better to you.
Need to get louder ? Add a second identicle cab.
Try all the 8ohm GK speakers and decide which one you like the most all by itself and then try two of the same exact cabinets vertically stacked together and see what you think.
Good advice here. With a 410/115 the 115 gets the power shared with the 410. 410 has 4 motors to share the input power, the 115 is all by itself and can't handle as much. The magnet and suspended voice coil in a speaker are technically called the motor assembly.
You will never hear the cries of pain from the 115 if the 410 is up closer to your ears as its surface area is producing more sound than the 115 could. That is setting aside the possible acoustic problems of mixing driver sizes.
You will never hear the cries of pain from the 115 if the 410 is up closer to your ears as its surface area is producing more sound than the 115 could. That is setting aside the possible acoustic problems of mixing driver sizes.
Can we put the hyperbole to rest, please? "Worst ever"? A couple of 2 inch computer speakers, or a little 3w transistor radio from 1973 would probably be "worst ever". A quality 4x10 and 1x15 can be pretty slammin if you know what you are doing.
It really depends on the specific cabs in question. For one thing, sensitivity varies a lot between cabs. You could have a 15 that's louder than your 4x10 with the same power. You could have a 15 that handles more power than the 4x10. Or it could be the other way around. But if your cabs are burly enough that you never come close to blowing either of them, what is there to worry about? In other words, if you have a 400w rated 1x15, even if your 4x10 is rated 800w, if you run them with a 300w @4 ohm head, you're pretty unlikely to run into any problems.
Which is not to say that setup is ideal, but it can certainly work great in the right situations. It really depends on a lot of factors.
I wish the same usual suspects could either drop the doom and gloom act, or at least be a little more well rounded and accurate with their statements. Instead they throw out gross exaggerations, and "conveniently" leave out the other half of the truth. Maybe they should quit TB and run for office.
How many people aspire to be engineers? How many "degreed audio engineers" are world renowned bassists? There's a reason this is called "Talk Bass" and not "Talk Engineering"
And frankly, who cares if they know ANY of that stuff? Clearly, they get results that work, right? Great art is not made by charts and graphs and calculations. MOST of the legendary bass sounds (both live and on record) we're all familiar with were NOT arrived at by someone saying "we'll, from an engineering standpoint, we need to blah blah blah....". A lot of them came from experimentation and trying new things until something "clicked".
How many 15 year old kids would be able to drive a Ferrari (or even a Mustang) without breaking or crashing it? How many Joe Blows on the street could perform heart surgery on someone if you gave them a scalpel? Bass gear needs to be used properly, just like any other tool. "User error" does not necessarily say anything about the inherent qualities of a particular tool or set of tools. And just because something requires more care to use properly, does not make it less useful.
I'm not saying it's ideal, but it is certainly a valid choice if that's what someone wants to use. Personally, I prefer 2 15s or 1 15 and 2 10s. But it's ART, people! You take all the fun out of it when you INSIST that everyone use the same type (matching cabs) of setup (which almost invariably will come back to 2 4x10s, because that is what can theoretically get you the most volume unless you go mammoth sized). BORING. Let people learn and experiment on their own and figure out what works for them. By all means, give them POINTERS. But don't basically say "this is what you need to do and if you don't you're an idiot and your butt smells and you like to smell your own butt".
