Hi all! I'm still very, very happy with the MB 212. I'm just wondering if others had the same experience as Classicjazz? Are your speakers wearing out? Personally, I've used mine damn loud for over a year with zero issues...
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GK Combo Shootout...MB210 vs. MB212
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No issue at all after a lot of very loud gigs. The acoustic lining has helped the tone somewhat. But its very bass heavy in general. The vt bass helps too.
I would always prefer the tone of something with tubes , but this works for what it needs to do.
On board compression, as opposed to the contour button would be a nice upgrade.
I would always prefer the tone of something with tubes , but this works for what it needs to do.
On board compression, as opposed to the contour button would be a nice upgrade.
I've used my MB212 for one rehearsal and I didn't really enjoy the sound of it, although it performed as it was supposed to.
I think it's going back for a refund after the bank holiday.
I think it's going back for a refund after the bank holiday.
Sold my after two months, just didn't like the tone at all. Went back to my two GK series 1-112 cabs.
Hey, Tallboy, have you ever run your two together? Is it noticeably louder?
I own a MB212. It's usually pretty good for gigs but I've been in a few outdoor situations where it wasn't enough. I was wondering if anyone here has had their MB212 modified in order to run a separate cabinet with the built in 212? Was there a noticeable volume difference? I am really trying to squeeze out the most volume from mine.
Thanks!
John
I own a MB212. It's usually pretty good for gigs but I've been in a few outdoor situations where it wasn't enough. I was wondering if anyone here has had their MB212 modified in order to run a separate cabinet with the built in 212? Was there a noticeable volume difference? I am really trying to squeeze out the most volume from mine.
Thanks!
John
I have 2 of these guys (MB212) and after hundreds of gigs with them I love them more than ever. I can always dial in the perfect tone in any room, and usually within seconds of plugging in. That EQ section is just magic for me.
Whenever I play outdoors or in large rooms I run mine daisy-chained together. 2 of them is WAY louder than 1, but for me it's not as much about total volume as it is about getting a big fat low end without pushing a single box really hard.
The 2 of them together easily equals an 810 cab for volume, punch, and low end, and still weighs a fraction of what the fridge does.
Very happy camper here.
FWIW I am NOT a fan of the MB210. It's much more boomy and floppy in the lows, and not nearly as loud as the MB212.
Whenever I play outdoors or in large rooms I run mine daisy-chained together. 2 of them is WAY louder than 1, but for me it's not as much about total volume as it is about getting a big fat low end without pushing a single box really hard.
The 2 of them together easily equals an 810 cab for volume, punch, and low end, and still weighs a fraction of what the fridge does.
Very happy camper here.
FWIW I am NOT a fan of the MB210. It's much more boomy and floppy in the lows, and not nearly as loud as the MB212.
Hi Sparkdog, thanks for your reply, I appreciate it.
When you say you daisy chain them, I assume you mean you have some kind of device or pedal that you plug your bass into which splits the signal. Then you take the two outs of this device and send one each to each MB212 combo...is that it? I'm just not that knowledge about this stuff, so please let me know if that's it.
Also, I'm curious as to why you bought a second MB212 combo rather than just buy a 212 cabinet...seems to me a cabinet would be cheaper. Have you ever compared your setup to one where there is a combo and a 212 cabinet? Just curious to see what the options are.
Thanks again!
John
Hi John,
Daisy chaining the MB212 couldn't be easier. It has 2 inputs, one labeled "passive" and one labeled "active". All you do is plug your bass into the first amp (I use the passive input even with my active bass) and then run a cable from the other input (active) on amp 1 to the input on amp 2.
That's it!
I set the controls exactly the same on both and it works like a charm.
When I bought mine, GK did not have the powered cabinet option, but having 2 complete amps works better for me anyway. This way I always have a backup, plus I have the ability to leave one at a rehearsal space and gig the other, etc.
Daisy chaining the MB212 couldn't be easier. It has 2 inputs, one labeled "passive" and one labeled "active". All you do is plug your bass into the first amp (I use the passive input even with my active bass) and then run a cable from the other input (active) on amp 1 to the input on amp 2.
That's it!
I set the controls exactly the same on both and it works like a charm.
When I bought mine, GK did not have the powered cabinet option, but having 2 complete amps works better for me anyway. This way I always have a backup, plus I have the ability to leave one at a rehearsal space and gig the other, etc.
Thanks Sparkdog, for your reply.
I had no idea you could "daisy chain" amps like this. It's a revelation for me.
I've been doing some research and I kinda understand your point. The 212 powered cabinets weigh the same and are $50 cheaper than the MB212 combos. So it's basically the same thing, without the eq. So you might as well buy another unit.
And the "non powered" cabinets are really only $150 less than a MB 212 combo.
Here is a question that I have: would using an "non powered" extension cabinet in conjunction with my MB 212 combo use more of the power of the MB 212 combo? In other words, would this be louder than using two MB 212, daisy chained? I doubt it, but I'm not so sure. I hope I'm making sense...thanks!
John
I had no idea you could "daisy chain" amps like this. It's a revelation for me.
I've been doing some research and I kinda understand your point. The 212 powered cabinets weigh the same and are $50 cheaper than the MB212 combos. So it's basically the same thing, without the eq. So you might as well buy another unit.
And the "non powered" cabinets are really only $150 less than a MB 212 combo.
Here is a question that I have: would using an "non powered" extension cabinet in conjunction with my MB 212 combo use more of the power of the MB 212 combo? In other words, would this be louder than using two MB 212, daisy chained? I doubt it, but I'm not so sure. I hope I'm making sense...thanks!
John
Correct...the MB212 has two 8 ohm 12" speakers for a 4 ohm load, the amp puts all 500 watts into that.
That's weird. I thought Mr Gallien was saying he was willing to modify existing MB212 combos in order to be able to run a separate cabinet....was I dreaming? Or am I missing something?
John
John
You can alway modify the cab, put the speakers in series that 16 ohms, add a output jack. Buy another 4 ohms cab put them in series to make 16 ohms and then parallel them to make 8 ohms.
GK will modify older MB212's to add the output for another POWERED cabinet. May as well just get a second MB212 IMO.
Hello Sparkdog, thanks again for your reply. I'm thinking of doing what you are doing.
Are both your MB 212 first generation? I understand that the second generation units are not exactly the same as the first generation and will not "lock" into each other if they are stacked.
Thanks!
John
Yes, mine are both first generation. They stack nicely but it's not real practical. If you go vertical the controls on the bottom unit are covered. If you go horizontal the controls are facing sideways and you have to squat down to get to them. I always just put mine side by side and it works fine.
Thanks for keeping this thread going...I'm looking at the two combos this week, and it's getting to be decision time!
I'm about to receive my new MBP410-II powered cabinet to add to my MB410-II combo. This should be a killer rig in every sense. Light weight, Powerful, Great tone, Flexible, etc.
TD
TD
Wow.
I just sat and read all 92 pages of this thread (on tapatalk) and I think I've been convinced. :thumbup:
Instead of starting another thread about this......ill just stick my question here.
I'm in a three piece coverband, fairly quiet, that plays alot of outside- back porch type gigs here in Florida. We do classic rock, country, 90s stuff.. etc.
I'm currently running an acoustic B200H into a Hartke 410xl and a no name (seismic) 15. Its great. Sounds good....plenty of volume...etc. the problem is, I am done with toting the 88lb XL around. Its the heaviest piece of equipment by far in our whole load in.
so I'm looking at these two gk offerings to make the move to an all in one package. I'm debating though between the 210 or the 212.
The 210 will be able to do really small gigs and being modular, I could use it with my 15 or even my 410 to cover other gig sizes.
The 212 sounds like it would be a direct replacement for my rig in one box.
Advice?
Also.....are the second generation mb's that are around now as good or better than the original series that most of his thread is discussing?
Thanks.
I just sat and read all 92 pages of this thread (on tapatalk) and I think I've been convinced. :thumbup:
Instead of starting another thread about this......ill just stick my question here.
I'm in a three piece coverband, fairly quiet, that plays alot of outside- back porch type gigs here in Florida. We do classic rock, country, 90s stuff.. etc.
I'm currently running an acoustic B200H into a Hartke 410xl and a no name (seismic) 15. Its great. Sounds good....plenty of volume...etc. the problem is, I am done with toting the 88lb XL around. Its the heaviest piece of equipment by far in our whole load in.
so I'm looking at these two gk offerings to make the move to an all in one package. I'm debating though between the 210 or the 212.
The 210 will be able to do really small gigs and being modular, I could use it with my 15 or even my 410 to cover other gig sizes.
The 212 sounds like it would be a direct replacement for my rig in one box.
Advice?
Also.....are the second generation mb's that are around now as good or better than the original series that most of his thread is discussing?
Thanks.
