Bufff! down to A is an unexplored depth for me...but I can assure you they do not shed a single drop of sweat when used wih my 5 string...a Sire V7, by the way
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GK CX cabs?
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that's great to hear! and man, nice basses! where'd you get the pickguards? I've been wanting a w/b/w one for my White Alder Sire.Bufff! down to A is an unexplored depth for me...but I can assure you they do not shed a single drop of sweat when used wih my 5 string...a Sire V7, by the way
Robert Gallien himself is a member here. Find him and drop him a message with your questions, I'm sure he'll be happy to get you answers.
The fours have custom bodies, one by Warmoth and the other form a luthier here in Spain, nice candy cola nitro finish. Pickguards are Fender ones. As for the fiver, the pickguard was custom made.
I know you're not considering the CX410, but just wanted to say that's what I have and it handles the low B just fine from my MB800
Yes my current GK 410 does great at Bb standard but unfortunately the CX410 is 67lbs. If weight wasn't an issue I'd probably snatch one up quick.
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I was going to suggest that
(2) NEO112s
I was a 10s guy for years until I went GK NEO 12s
Seems there are definitely different tastes in this thread ha. In your experience do you think that 2 neo 12s could be loud enough for a 4 piece in A standard? I tend to not have an outrageously loud stage volume with my 410.
I have an MB800 that I run through a cx410 and cx210 in a metal band with a loud drummer and even louder guitar players ( mesa triple rectifier with 4x12 ) and my rig cuts and sounds amazing. We use a bunch of tunings- standard, drop D, C# standard, BEAD, and its always clear. Love GK
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It's hard to say...
But if your not to loud yes.
I use (2) NEO 112s with 2 guitarist on tighter stages with no issue.
Hello,
Sorry to hear about your back.
I have experience with the cabs you're talking about. Here goes:
The neos are the answer for your back. They are the most light weight. I've done a load of shows with neo 10s and my back thanks me. In fact, I've toured running through a first gen GK MB210, which is a combo amp with 2x10 neos. It weighs no more than a case of wine. Really. This model was replaced by the MB210 II which almost the same thing with ceramic drivers. It weighs a little more but still very light for a combo.
The CX210 is the answer for your tone. I use two of these to get a 4ohm load for my amp (GK) but the rig remains modular which means I can fit it into my car easily with plenty of room for the other stuff. I can pick up a CX210 with one hand. I can pick up one in each hand and raise them above my shoulder. But I do work out. They are definitely heavier than a 210 neo cab but again, easy to lift. You can get the weight specs from GK's website.
Tone: The CX 210 definitely has more low end response. High mids are more present in the neo cabs, but the CX can pretty much cover it all. I don't use the tweeter, but I can see how some would. For large venues, neos or ceramics would work fine because you're using FOH to move the air. The neos are edgier. The CX is darker. I sometimes hook up a CX210 to the MB210 and run a neo/cx mix. Sounds great, I think I accidently cut down a neighbor's tree with that sound.
Tuning: Yes, the CX210 can handle alternate bass tunings. Know why? Because when you're playing metal tuned to A or G# no one can hear your low fundamental anyway. There aren't any cabs designed to reproduce that. It's the harmonics you're after. The ones that tell the ear that that note exists. The CX210 can do that. Please remember, just because you're playing low notes doesn't mean you need low frequencies.
To sum it up: The CX210 can do what you are asking for. I use them, and recommend them. GK no longer makes a neo 210, so the CX is the way to go if you need modular. If you want 12" drivers, everything I just wrote applies, but everything is heavier. I also recommend core strength training. If you're 25 with back problems, you need to train your body to avoid injury. Good luck!!
Sorry to hear about your back.
I have experience with the cabs you're talking about. Here goes:
The neos are the answer for your back. They are the most light weight. I've done a load of shows with neo 10s and my back thanks me. In fact, I've toured running through a first gen GK MB210, which is a combo amp with 2x10 neos. It weighs no more than a case of wine. Really. This model was replaced by the MB210 II which almost the same thing with ceramic drivers. It weighs a little more but still very light for a combo.
The CX210 is the answer for your tone. I use two of these to get a 4ohm load for my amp (GK) but the rig remains modular which means I can fit it into my car easily with plenty of room for the other stuff. I can pick up a CX210 with one hand. I can pick up one in each hand and raise them above my shoulder. But I do work out. They are definitely heavier than a 210 neo cab but again, easy to lift. You can get the weight specs from GK's website.
Tone: The CX 210 definitely has more low end response. High mids are more present in the neo cabs, but the CX can pretty much cover it all. I don't use the tweeter, but I can see how some would. For large venues, neos or ceramics would work fine because you're using FOH to move the air. The neos are edgier. The CX is darker. I sometimes hook up a CX210 to the MB210 and run a neo/cx mix. Sounds great, I think I accidently cut down a neighbor's tree with that sound.
Tuning: Yes, the CX210 can handle alternate bass tunings. Know why? Because when you're playing metal tuned to A or G# no one can hear your low fundamental anyway. There aren't any cabs designed to reproduce that. It's the harmonics you're after. The ones that tell the ear that that note exists. The CX210 can do that. Please remember, just because you're playing low notes doesn't mean you need low frequencies.
To sum it up: The CX210 can do what you are asking for. I use them, and recommend them. GK no longer makes a neo 210, so the CX is the way to go if you need modular. If you want 12" drivers, everything I just wrote applies, but everything is heavier. I also recommend core strength training. If you're 25 with back problems, you need to train your body to avoid injury. Good luck!!
Thank you! This post was incredibly helpful and just what I was looking for. I'm definitely leaning towards the CX210 right now. As far as my back goes, I trained in the martial arts for years so I know the importance of core strength. Unfortunately it wore on my body and a car accident kinda sealed the deal. Maybe one day I'll be strong enough to lift 410s again but until then I think these CX210s can do the trick. Thanks again!Hello,
Sorry to hear about your back.
I have experience with the cabs you're talking about. Here goes:
The neos are the answer for your back. They are the most light weight. I've done a load of shows with neo 10s and my back thanks me. In fact, I've toured running through a first gen GK MB210, which is a combo amp with 2x10 neos. It weighs no more than a case of wine. Really. This model was replaced by the MB210 II which almost the same thing with ceramic drivers. It weighs a little more but still very light for a combo.
The CX210 is the answer for your tone. I use two of these to get a 4ohm load for my amp (GK) but the rig remains modular which means I can fit it into my car easily with plenty of room for the other stuff. I can pick up a CX210 with one hand. I can pick up one in each hand and raise them above my shoulder. But I do work out. They are definitely heavier than a 210 neo cab but again, easy to lift. You can get the weight specs from GK's website.
Tone: The CX 210 definitely has more low end response. High mids are more present in the neo cabs, but the CX can pretty much cover it all. I don't use the tweeter, but I can see how some would. For large venues, neos or ceramics would work fine because you're using FOH to move the air. The neos are edgier. The CX is darker. I sometimes hook up a CX210 to the MB210 and run a neo/cx mix. Sounds great, I think I accidently cut down a neighbor's tree with that sound.
Tuning: Yes, the CX210 can handle alternate bass tunings. Know why? Because when you're playing metal tuned to A or G# no one can hear your low fundamental anyway. There aren't any cabs designed to reproduce that. It's the harmonics you're after. The ones that tell the ear that that note exists. The CX210 can do that. Please remember, just because you're playing low notes doesn't mean you need low frequencies.
To sum it up: The CX210 can do what you are asking for. I use them, and recommend them. GK no longer makes a neo 210, so the CX is the way to go if you need modular. If you want 12" drivers, everything I just wrote applies, but everything is heavier. I also recommend core strength training. If you're 25 with back problems, you need to train your body to avoid injury. Good luck!!
I have a pair of the Hartke Hydrives. They work great for me and I'd compare their output to my old 410XL cab.
That being said, if I were doing what it sounds like what you are wanting to do I'd look elsewhere.
No personal experience with them, but if I were looking to upgrade for your needs, I'd go with a pair of Barefaced 210s.
That being said, if I were doing what it sounds like what you are wanting to do I'd look elsewhere.
No personal experience with them, but if I were looking to upgrade for your needs, I'd go with a pair of Barefaced 210s.
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For metal and alternate tunings, I've always preferred 10's. I've never had luck with 15's being able to cope with drop tunings, triple picking, and fast 16th notes, let alone 32nds.
They've never felt fast enough compared to sealed 10 cabs.
After trying everything GK had when I had an endorsement deal with them, I found the SBX810 (no cx then) to reproduce everything I wanted. I briefly ran a 1st Gen Neo212, but it just couldn't do what the 810 could. The CX210 is the closest GK cab I've used that could replicate what the 810 could, but I never used 2 of them together.
They've never felt fast enough compared to sealed 10 cabs.
After trying everything GK had when I had an endorsement deal with them, I found the SBX810 (no cx then) to reproduce everything I wanted. I briefly ran a 1st Gen Neo212, but it just couldn't do what the 810 could. The CX210 is the closest GK cab I've used that could replicate what the 810 could, but I never used 2 of them together.
Barefaced are my dream cabs but I'm on a very tight budget, otherwise I'd definitely get one.
My current 410 is sealed and yes it feels very reactive and fast. These CX210s are ported unfortunately but maybe it'll be okay.
Can these cabs be stacked on their sides? In other words, can they be placed on ground with no rubber feet between the cab and the ground? I'm wondering if that would cause weird sounds or cause the cabs to shake.
Yes, they can be set up sideways. That's how I usually run them. That way they stack higher vertically and are closer to my ear.
Sounds just as great and no, wierd sounds aren't part of the picture unless I bump into the keyboard.
If you have a question about floor vibration, I suggest bringing a "gig towel" and putting it on the ground then stacking your rick on top of that. Any venue with a carpet on stage would make that unnecessary. Simple solution that the crowd would never see.Sorry to hear about the car accident. Back injuries suck.
Thanks, I sometimes play on a wooden stage so I was worried about not having the rubber feet on the bottom.Yes, they can be set up sideways. That's how I usually run them. That way they stack higher vertically and are closer to my ear.
Sounds just as great and no, wierd sounds aren't part of the picture unless I bump into the keyboard.
Sorry to hear about the car accident. Back injuries suck.
The CX series are very good. I have the 115 model and it's well balanced. I use it all the time with the MB800 head. Light and plenty.I've got a pair of CX 210'S....
They sound great with my Mesa D800....
Also got a CX 115 ordered......Hoping that they get it built soon....
