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GK Neo IV cabs
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Al Kraft
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I don't see how they could support the horn bi-amp capability. The older Neo cabs did and RBH cabs still do.
While the GK horn bi-amp capability was certainly cool and very useful for some, I think the majority of users (especially non "GK bi-amp capable" head owners) mainly relied on the cab's built in crossover (i.e. full range operation). According to what I've read, the new Neo cabs have an improved internal crossover design and most folks will likely feel that was money well spent as opposed to offering the horn bi-amp feature.
ok so let me rephrase in a non-native-english-speaker-way to make sure I understand correctly, there is no more bi-amp feature in the newer models? So the new Neo cabs will work as would any other "regular" cab with an older RB head? Personally, I loved the possibility of turning the tweeter completely off on the older cabinets from the amp controls...
I am pretty sure the pictures on the GK website and elsewhere clearly show the back of the cabs with the "horn bi-amp" speakon connector, so are those wrong?
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The new Neo cabs do not have the bi-amp feature/capability, so you would use them as you would "a regular cab" from any other manufacturer.
To quote Bob Gallien (post 75): "The horn can be turned off on all our cabs."
To quote Bob Gallen again (post 57 ): "The first prototype had the old crossover. We updated the crossover before production but some photos were released of the prototype."
I hope that's helpful and post citations are from this very thread.
Thanks a lot! Yeas I saw post 57, but it's almost a year old and I would have thought they'd have fixed the pictures by now
and I missed post 75 indeed, I read the whole thread quickly and then was in doubt because of the speakon post.Thanks again!
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Once stuff gets posted somewhere on the internet and then copied by everyone I think it's almost impossible to eliminate all the original pictures when corrections are made.
I've been looking -- and asked a few places -- but haven't been able to find a sensitivity figure (dB/W/m) for the 4 Ohm Neo IV 2x12. Can anyone shed some light, here?
I'm looking for something that'll help me to make the most of a 150 Watt tube amp and a 400 Watt SS head, among other things.
I'm looking for something that'll help me to make the most of a 150 Watt tube amp and a 400 Watt SS head, among other things.
So far all I have been able to find is 101 dB for the NEO II 212. I would suspect the NEO IV would be the same or better. But then I could be wrong.
I own a NEO IV 212. Got it last month. Let me go checkout the paperwork on it.
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Just checked,
sensitivity is 101
max SPL is 129
Freq Resp 43Hz - 18kHz
It says that its the same for the 4ohm/8ohm cabs.
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Anyone have the neo 210 iv? Wonder how it sounds compared to the neo 2x12. The sample on the GK site is of little value since the volume seems to drop off whenever they feature either the 2x10 or the 4x10. I'm thinking the neo 210 for small bedroom practicing sessions thinking the 2x12 may be overbearing and boomy. Yet I need something that will get loud if I ever had to to use it on a gig. It would be powered by either a Mesa D-350 or Aguilar TH350. My first thought was get the 2x12 4ohm cab to get the full potential of the amps for any future gigs but thinking for the 99% majority of the time in the bedroom the 2x10 may sound better. Then again there is the neo 1x12 option. Any thoughts?
I have the Neo 212 IV and find it focused, not boomy. I use it at low volume sometimes in my practice room. Overkill for a small bedroom but would the 210 be enough for your gigs. I have a Mesa D800+ which works quite well for headphone practice. The D-350 could also support headphone practice if the cab is still too much at low volume.
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Anyone ever compare the GK neo iv 210 to the Mesa Subway 210?
I have not, but, coming back to your bedroom vs. gig use question, the 210 might or might not offer an advantage over the 212 for low-volume practice at home. If either cab is more suited to quiet practice at home, it will likely be due more to the voicing and character of the low-end than "Can I turn it low enough?"
On a louder gig, though, especially with a medium-power amp like a Mesa D-350 or an Aguilar TH350, the 4 Ohm 2x12 will offer a marked and definite advantage over the 8 Ohm 210. This could change if you add a second, 8 Ohm 210 (one for home use, one or two as needed for gigs) but, with those amps (note: 4 Ohm minimum on each of those) and a single cab, I'd go with the bigger, more efficient, 4 Ohm cab if you are at all concerned about things getting loud. Again, if you're open to maybe adding a second 210 later, that changes, but if you want one cab to cover both scenarios, that's the way I'd go.
Placement in a room can make a difference, as can elevating the cab or putting it on something like a Gramma pad.
If I get the 210 I'll eventually add either another neo 210, 112 or 115. There is something about 10's that appeals to me. Plus I much prefer to have 2 smaller/ lighter cabs to move around instead of one bulkier/ heavier single cabinet. I'm sure the 2x12 cab sounds awesome but I'm fairly confident that two 210 cabs will sound every bit as good, perhaps even better. Never heard of a Gramma pad before now, thanks for the info.
Wasnt sure if you were talking 212 or 210. But yeah, there's not a lot that I have seen on the 210, or even the 410. Seems like a lot of players are going 212, or two 115s.
I know GK has a comparison video out of all the NEO IV cabs. And to my ears, listening through an Atlec Lansing surround sound system with sub woofer, the 115 sounds the best, followed by the 212, 410, then 210.
I went with the 212 because I already have a pair of 115s, not GK. And because Dink Cook, bassist for Toby Keith, convinced me GK 212 was the way to go back when the NEO II was the main offering from GK in neo based cabs.
