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GLOCKENKLANG CABINETS

#21
One bummer about starting up Bass Gear Magazine is that it has taken time away from my beloved shootouts... :hmm:

But there are a couple of excellent comparisons called for in this thread, and I'll see what I can do about responding to them. I just need a bit more time to do so than before. :smug:
 
#22
diglo said:
I went with the 410 Quattro! It's a beast by itself. I think I'm good for awhile with this one. Maybe get a 15 as a backup cab later. Ah yeah, it's heavy but I can't give up sound for weight. I was using neo cabs, nice but was never happy.

Also, I purchased my glockenklang cab from Brian Barrett at LowEnd BassShop.
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Congrats on a great cab there Diglo. My main rig is a Tecamp Puma 1000, into a Glockenklang Double 2x12, using Lowend Jazz basses. The three ingredients together work beautifully. I love the Glock cab because it sounds bigger and fuller and warmer than other cabs it's size. It's not ultra-lightweight but it also doesn't have that slight lack of depth and presence that some neo stuff does. I tried neo stuff (although admittedly not Tecamp cabs) and it just seemed a touch thin to my ears.

I have no trouble lugging this rig around and I do play in some hard to access venues over here. My ultimate bigger rig would be a second Glock 2x12 or a 2x12 and a 4x10. My current rig is so efficient that I don't know if I would ever need this sort of juice though.
 
#23
Tendollarcat said:
Congrats on a great cab there Diglo. My main rig is a Tecamp Puma 1000, into a Glockenklang Double 2x12, using Lowend Jazz basses. The three ingredients together work beautifully. I love the Glock cab because it sounds bigger and fuller and warmer than other cabs it's size. It's not ultra-lightweight but it also doesn't have that slight lack of depth and presence that some neo stuff does. I tried neo stuff (although admittedly not Tecamp cabs) and it just seemed a touch thin to my ears.

I have no trouble lugging this rig around and I do play in some hard to access venues over here. My ultimate bigger rig would be a second Glock 2x12 or a 2x12 and a 4x10. My current rig is so efficient that I don't know if I would ever need this sort of juice though.
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Thanks tendollarcat! Yeah, I'm really feeling this cab. Only problem now, I like the DR lo-riders better than the DR marcus miller on this cab.
 
#24
Congrats on the Quattro !
:)

I've got one and this is one eck of a cab. I received a Tecamp 212 recently which was supposed to replace the Quattro but those two cab don't play in the same lag.

The tecamp in comparison sounds thin without some eq work.

If it wasn't for weight that Quattro would be my life time cab.
;)
 
#25
Shiveringbass said:
Congrats on the Quattro !
:)

I've got one and this is one eck of a cab. I received a Tecamp 212 recently which was supposed to replace the Quattro but those two cab don't play in the same lag.

The tecamp in comparison sounds thin without some eq work.

If it wasn't for weight that Quattro would be my life time cab.
;)
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IMO, no 212 can play in the same league as a 410. The TecAmp 56 pound 410 would be the apples to apples comparison to the Quattro;)
 
#26
Hey Ken,

I'm strictly talking about tone. Volumewize, I'm totaly with you a 4x10" is one beast and a 2x12" another.
;)

Anyway tonewize, Glockenklang cabinets realy do a thing that no one else does.

Having trying my Soul head with both the Tecamp and the Glockenklang, I realise that the tone I like is more in the Glock cab that in the head.
;)

I guess the op will be a happy camper for a long long time with the Quattro.
;)
 
#27
Shiveringbass said:
Hey Ken,

I'm strictly talking about tone. Volumewize, I'm totaly with you a 4x10" is one beast and a 2x12" another.
;)

Anyway tonewize, Glockenklang cabinets realy do a thing that no one else does.

Having trying my Soul head with both the Tecamp and the Glockenklang, I realise that the tone I like is more in the Glock cab that in the head.
;)

I guess the op will be a happy camper for a long long time with the Quattro.
;)
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I briefly tried a couple of the 'Volt loaded' Glock cabs at Tom Bowlus's house a while back, and they were beautiful sounding cabs! The 112 and 210 were not featherweight, but the weight was fine. A full sized 410 would be a bit much for me. I'd love to hear one of their full neo 410's (I think they have a 'heavy, medium, and light' model 410).
 
#29
Nice to see these cabinets getting a lot of love in this thread.

I recently picked up a Heart-Rock, and have been doing a little bit of research on the cabinets I might consider pairing with it in the future. So far, one Glockenklang cabinet has piqued my interest: the 1x15 + 6 Tedd. After doing some TB research, I haven't distilled much consensus on the cabinet, besides the fact that it seems to retail used for a ridiculous amount of money. Is this collector's nostalgia, or does it really offer something unique as a cabinet? Moreover, in what sense does it differ from the current line 1x15 Uno?
 
#31
naturalkinds said:
Nice to see these cabinets getting a lot of love in this thread.

I recently picked up a Heart-Rock, and have been doing a little bit of research on the cabinets I might consider pairing with it in the future. So far, one Glockenklang cabinet has piqued my interest: the 1x15 + 6 Tedd. After doing some TB research, I haven't distilled much consensus on the cabinet, besides the fact that it seems to retail used for a ridiculous amount of money. Is this collector's nostalgia, or does it really offer something unique as a cabinet? Moreover, in what sense does it differ from the current line 1x15 Uno?
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I have not tried an Uno, but I do own a Tedd cab. It was included in my (now rather old) 1x15 shootout.

Here is the bit about the Tedd cab:

Glockenklang Tedd - This cab is super articulate through the mids, and very aggressive. The high end is brighter than that of the Tri 115L, but doesn't have the same sheen as the HT115 or T/UL-115 - though the high end is really incredible for not having a tweeter. Very full and punchy, on the whole, but not as full on the low end as the HT115 (it might be, though, if laid on its side - which I did not do). The HT115 has more low mid punch, but the Glock has more upper mid punch (only the Skjold cab has more upper mids). Has a sense of 'effortless articulation' that reminds me of the Berg IP153 (maybe the secret is in the midrange drivers?). The low B response seems slightly stronger than the low E response. Great balance of fullness, articulation, punch, and clarity. This cab seems very loud for its 100 dB sensitivity rating. This model has been discontinued.
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#34
Got two pieces of information that I thought might interest Glockenklang cabinet users.

1. Apparently, they have stopped producing neo speakers, at least for the American market. When I inquired about getting some shipped to me, Helge, from Glockenklang, said:

we can't provide the neos anymore, because our manufacturer can't build them anymore.
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Not sure whether the same result carries over to the foreign markets, since I believe they construct the foreign cabinets in Europe, and they might still use the Volt drivers. With that said....

2. They do not sell Volt drivers to the American market, and she left it unclear whether the Volt drivers were still being used in new European cabs. He says, with regard to the drivers I was considering purchasing for my Take Five:

these are the Eminence drivers. The Volt 10" we can't provide anymore.
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Be curious to know whether anyone knows any more about the driver choices and the US/European production of Glockenklang cabinets.
 
#35
I have confirmed with David from Volt that they no longer provide Glockenklang -- or any commercial bass cabinet manufacturer! -- with drivers. Not sure whether this entails they are now using Eminence drivers for all of their production cabinets, or only for the US ones. He did, however, suggest another option if one wanted a driver similar to the classic Glockenklang ones, which, he says, is more sensitive in the midrange. The data sheet on the Volt BM2514 driver is below.

Regarding the original Glockenklang drivers, he says that they were manufactured on a pressed steel chassis, which they no longer make in a 10" bass driver.

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#36
naturalkinds said:
Nice to see these cabinets getting a lot of love in this thread.

I recently picked up a Heart-Rock, and have been doing a little bit of research on the cabinets I might consider pairing with it in the future. So far, one Glockenklang cabinet has piqued my interest: the 1x15 + 6 Tedd. After doing some TB research, I haven't distilled much consensus on the cabinet, besides the fact that it seems to retail used for a ridiculous amount of money. Is this collector's nostalgia, or does it really offer something unique as a cabinet? Moreover, in what sense does it differ from the current line 1x15 Uno?
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I spent some time with one of these back in the day. They are stupid expensive. Nice, but quite frankly, no better (if as good) as the 15/6's that LDS makes. Tone is smooth and even, just like other designs with a crossover that funnels the upper mids on up to a small, high quality mid driver. Those new Eminence neo LF speakers are VERY hard to beat in these types of cabs IMO.
 
#38
I love the look (and sound) of the 'regular' Glock cabs with the Volt drivers, but man, those lighter weight ones are fud-uggly:eek: I think they had to use that carpet looking stuff since the cabs are some sort of pressboard/composite material they use to reduce the weight (versus using neo drivers and lightweight wood).
 
#39
KJung said:
I love the look (and sound) of the 'regular' Glock cabs with the Volt drivers, but man, those lighter weight ones are fud-uggly:eek: I think they had to use that carpet looking stuff since the cabs are some sort of pressboard/composite material they use to reduce the weight (versus using neo drivers and lightweight wood).
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They look a lot better in person, and they do sound phenomenal! :cool:
 
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#40
Ken, I doub't they are Glockenklang is us using a pressboard or composite. Any of the pressboard (Advantec, OSB, etc) is far heavier than any comparable plywood. There are several plywood products available that are light to "ulatralight" although not very robust, including italian poplar, and chinese birch (which you can compress with your fingers but if properly braced would work:) Carpet is easy to apply and inexpensive.
The downside, as you said; not very attractive. And if you have animals or live in a damp, or smoky environment it attracts vestiges of all the aforementioned and does not part with any without a fight. I used carpet way back in the day and my cats and kids made me change to Duratex, the same finish Glockenklang, JBL, Meyers, and everyone else uses. Glockenklang calls it "water based structured coating" which is exactly what it is. That said, I'm sure the cabs sound great, and Volt makes some wonderful drivers.
 

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