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Gonna start a new 5 string build ...Ziricote and Spanish Cedar

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by Dark Horse, May 14, 2018.


  1. Dark Horse

    Dark Horse Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2008
    Austin, TX
    The body will be Spanish cedar with a ziricote top. Spanish Cedar is very lightweight, and is actually a lot closer related to Honduran mahogany then it is toany type of Cedar. It’s also quite beautiful, A lovely reddish color. Ziricote, of course, is a beautiful and hard wood ... has lovely dark grain patterns on it. I will probably do it with a b/w/b bound top. The plan is to route for 2 Bartolini P2 Shaped pick ups, though I’m still deciding between a few makers. It will also be rear routed for the controls. It will not be a precision bass shape, I am just using that template to kind of show what it would look like as far as the grain. I will update as the build progresses

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  2. charlie monroe

    charlie monroe Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 14, 2011
    Buffalo, NY
    Damn, son.

    I've got my front row seat ready to go.
     
  3. GMC

    GMC

    Jan 1, 2006
    Walmer
    Those look like nice bits of timber. Looking forwards to seeing how your build progresses!
     
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  4. Dark Horse

    Dark Horse Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2008
    Austin, TX
    Gluing up the ziricote top...

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  5. campbems

    campbems Supporting Member

    Jun 20, 2013
    Jackson
    That top wood is gorgeous.
     
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  6. Dark Horse

    Dark Horse Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2008
    Austin, TX
    Here’s the glued up blank ...


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  7. Arie X

    Arie X

    Oct 19, 2015
    i like spanish cedar (cedro) i use it all the time in acoustic guitar builds. it's my neck and block wood of choice. if you encounter the usual pitch pockets, sop is to sand and seal them up quickly right before final dimensions and you'll be ok.

    looks like a nice project.
     
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  8. charlie monroe

    charlie monroe Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 14, 2011
    Buffalo, NY
    So nice, Andy.
     
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  9. Dark Horse

    Dark Horse Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2008
    Austin, TX
    i needed to make a body outline template, so I grabbed some 1/2” mdf and drew the shape ....

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    Then grabbed my trusty jigsaw to rough cut the shape ....



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    A bit of time on the random orbital sander, and then some hand sanding and my template is done !


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    I also made a template for the Bartolini P2 shape soapbars. Not sure that I’ll use Bart’s, but several manufacturers like Aguilar, Nordstrand, etc also use this shape. I’ve always liked this shape pickup....easy to rout well, big enough to rest your thumb on, but doesn’t take up so much real estate on the top that it messes with the looks . Anyway, here’s a pic ....


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    Then it’s time to place the template on the body blank and position it. Here’s what I came up with ....

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    I think it’s even and pretty symmetrical, and I love the grain. It’ll look awesome when finished.


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  10. Dark Horse

    Dark Horse Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2008
    Austin, TX
    Here’s the body shape rough cut. I left more room around the outline than I normally would because ziricote is “chippy” and splinters around the edge of you aren’t careful. I’d rather spend more time routing and sanding, and not take a chance of ruining the top.

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  11. I've been eyeing ziricote tops, looks great.
     
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  12. Dark Horse

    Dark Horse Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2008
    Austin, TX

    I used it to make this body, and loved the weight and tooling properties. It’s really nice stuff to work with.


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  13. Dark Horse

    Dark Horse Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2008
    Austin, TX

    Thanks ...I think it’s gonna look great when it’s all done !
     
  14. Dark Horse

    Dark Horse Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2008
    Austin, TX

    It’s a really striking wood. Tremendously beautiful, in my opinion. I’d love to see what you’d make with it !
     
  15. charlie monroe

    charlie monroe Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 14, 2011
    Buffalo, NY
    I've waited years for you to build a coffee table.

    It's about time.

    Still looking for that hippie sandwich you talked about a while back.
     
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  16. Dark Horse

    Dark Horse Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2008
    Austin, TX
    Body outline routed and sanded to shape ....


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    I’m debating whether or not to do a bound top. (B/w/b)....The contrast between the Spanish Cedar and Ziricote is actually very nice, in my opinion ......

    Hmmm..... thoughts ?



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  17. Dark Horse

    Dark Horse Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2008
    Austin, TX
    I’m Making a “sandwich “ Tele for my brother ;)

    Alder and walnut stringers, walnut back, mahogany core, and curly mango top with binding...



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  18. charlie monroe

    charlie monroe Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 14, 2011
    Buffalo, NY
    My first thought is it doesn't need binding, but humor me and tape some up against it for a comparo
     
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  19. charlie monroe

    charlie monroe Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 14, 2011
    Buffalo, NY
    The Tele is gorgeous. Nice work, man.
     
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  20. Dark Horse

    Dark Horse Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2008
    Austin, TX

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