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Good, Mid-Tier amp head Recommendation

H13

May 28, 2016
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YO!

Full disclosure: I'm a guitarist, but starting to take bass seriously (if only because it makes my guitar sound amazing ;) ). This means I have an idea of what I'm looking for, but don't have enough experience\knowledge with bass amps to figure out what I'm into.

My "main" bass amp is a 1970s Silverface Fender Bassman. It DOES sound amazing and I really love it. But it's big, heavy, temperamental, loud, and generally a pain in the ass. I ALSO use it in my studio for recording clean guitars because it's the absolute best clean guitar sound I've ever heard. This means I have it living on top of my guitar cabs instead of my bass cab, which is on the opposite side of the room...

I'm not gonna lug that heavy bastard back and forth across the room depending on which instrument I feel like playing. When I record, I just run an extra long speaker cable from the amp, across the room to the bass cab :roflmao: but yeah, even though it's killer, my setup means it's not terribly convenient.

ERGO:

I would like a good bass head that I can have sitting on top of my bass cab that I can gig with, or just plug into and jam without having to move my bassman or drag cables all around the room.

PRIORITIES:
- My Bass Cab is an Ampeg SVT 112. 300 Watts @ 8Ohm

- Since I already have something big and tubey, I'm relatively okay with something solid-state. BUT:

- I use OD\Distortion\Fuzz pedals fairly regularly. Coming from guitar world, I like to set amps edge-of-breakup and push it into roaring fun with OD\Distortion\Fuzz. In guitar land, trying to do this with a non-tube amp generally ends in tears. You normally get something harsh and spikey, but you also feel like you're slamming into a brick wall. While I know that bass is a different world and a more "strident" attack\saturation is actually better for tightness rather than something woofy and luxurious, I'd be keen for something that maybe has a tube preamp? (But at the same time, a lot of "tube preamps" are preamps that have a glowing 12ax7 that actually does sweet shag all)

- Alternatively: If it's a solid-state amp that handles distortion\fuzz really well and doesn't feel like you're slamming into a brick wall, I am keen.

- I play real basic-bitch blues (12 bar in Am for life!) and metal. I generally prefer punch over out-right aggression, but...aggressively punchy is good ;)

- Favourite bass players in terms of noise include Justin Chancellor, James Jameson, Jean Michel Labadie, Lemmy, Jason Newsted, Roger Waters (which technically might be David Gilmour more often than not but shhhh), Paz Lenchantin, Marcus Miller...aka: Basic Bitch favourite bass players ;)

- Budget: Around $750USD ($1000AUD)

- While this bass amp is kinda meant more for gigging and jamming, I would like something that sounds good enough to record with as an alternative to the Bassman. Which is why I'm leaning to solid-state. Sorta a "Hmm. The Bassman isn't working here. Let's try this one"

THINGS I HAVE TRIED:
- Ampeg SVT3 Pro. It was an bass amp. It definitely didn't sound bad but it never did anything that made me go: "Oh shag yeah"

- Ampeg Venture. It was an bass amp that wasn't as good as the SVT3 Pro. To me, this amp sounded like a loud DI. People are definitely into that, and the form factor was great. It's a good thing, but I don't like amps that sound like a loud DI

- Darkglass. If I'm blunt, I kinda hate the Darkglass stuff. It does sound great! But every darkglass sounds exactly the same. It does absolutely nothing to interest me.

THINGS I AM KEEN ON?
- Markbass Little Mark 250
- Markbass LIttle Mark Vintage (pushing it's luck with price...)
- GK Legacy 500
- Open to other suggestions?

Note: I will play these amps in person to see what I like, but I would like to know what to keep an eye out for ;)
 
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Quilter bass block v803.
Gets the tubey vibe, the solid state vibe, plenty of power, good for recording, light weight.
 
YO!

Full disclosure: I'm a guitarist, but starting to take bass seriously (if only because it makes my guitar sound amazing ;) ). This means I have an idea of what I'm looking for, but don't have enough experience\knowledge with bass amps to figure out what I'm into.

My "main" bass amp is a 1970s Silverface Fender Bassman. It DOES sound amazing and I really love it. But it's big, heavy, temperamental, loud, and generally a pain in the ass. I ALSO use it in my studio for recording clean guitars because it's the absolute best clean guitar sound I've ever heard. This means I have it living on top of my guitar cabs instead of my bass cab, which is on the opposite side of the room...

I'm not gonna lug that heavy bastard back and forth across the room depending on which instrument I feel like playing. When I record, I just run an extra long speaker cable from the amp, across the room to the bass cab :roflmao: but yeah, even though it's killer, my setup means it's not terribly convenient.

ERGO:

I would like a good bass head that I can have sitting on top of my bass cab that I can gig with, or just plug into and jam without having to move my bassman or drag cables all around the room.

PRIORITIES:
- My Bass Cab is an Ampeg SVT 112. 300 Watts @ 8Ohm

- Since I already have something big and tubey, I'm relatively okay with something solid-state. BUT:

- I use OD\Distortion\Fuzz pedals fairly regularly. Coming from guitar world, I like to set amps edge-of-breakup and push it into roaring fun with OD\Distortion\Fuzz. In guitar land, trying to do this with a non-tube amp generally ends in tears. You normally get something harsh and spikey, but you also feel like you're slamming into a brick wall. While I know that bass is a different world and a more "strident" attack\saturation is actually better for tightness rather than something woofy and luxurious, I'd be keen for something that maybe has a tube preamp? (But at the same time, a lot of "tube preamps" are preamps that have a glowing 12ax7 that actually does sweet shag all)

- Alternatively: If it's a solid-state amp that handles distortion\fuzz really well and doesn't feel like you're slamming into a brick wall, I am keen.

- I play real basic-bitch blues (12 bar in Am for life!) and metal. I generally prefer punch over out-right aggression, but...aggressively punchy is good ;)

- Favourite bass players in terms of noise include Justin Chancellor, James Jameson, Jean Michel Labadie, Lemmy, Jason Newsted, Roger Waters (which technically might be David Gilmour more often than not but shhhh), Paz Lenchantin, Marcus Miller...aka: Basic Bitch favourite bass players ;)

- Budget: Around $750USD ($1000AUD)

- While this bass amp is kinda meant more for gigging and jamming, I would like something that sounds good enough to record with as an alternative to the Bassman. Which is why I'm leaning to solid-state. Sorta a "Hmm. The Bassman isn't working here. Let's try this one"

THINGS I HAVE TRIED:
- Ampeg SVT3 Pro. It was an bass amp. It definitely didn't sound bad but it never did anything that made me go: "Oh shag yeah"

- Ampeg Venture. It was an bass amp that wasn't as good as the SVT3 Pro. To me, this amp sounded like a loud DI. People are definitely into that, and the form factor was great. It's a good thing, but I don't like amps that sound like a loud DI

- Darkglass. If I'm blunt, I kinda hate the Darkglass stuff. It does sound great! But every darkglass sounds exactly the same. It does absolutely nothing to interest me.

THINGS I AM KEEN ON?
- Markbass Little Mark 250
- Markbass LIttle Mark Vintage (pushing it's luck with price...)
- GK Legacy 500
- Open to other suggestions?

Note: I will play these amps in person to see what I like, but I would like to know what to keep an eye out for ;)


An Orange TerrorBass might be more in line with what you are used to. The preamp drives fairly easy if you crank the Gain. For clean, keep the Gain fairly low and run the Master fairly high.

Used is under your max, new is over.
 
Speaking of which, a used GK1001RB has come up for sale.

Sometimes GK can sound a bit like a "Loud DI" for me, but it's well in my price range. Concerned about running 700W into a 300W cab though.

Not convinced it's the right choice, but I wouldn't be doing the right thing if I didn't ask about it?
 
Speaking of which, a used GK1001RB has come up for sale.

Sometimes GK can sound a bit like a "Loud DI" for me, but it's well in my price range. Concerned about running 700W into a 300W cab though.

Not convinced it's the right choice, but I wouldn't be doing the right thing if I didn't ask about it?
Is it the mark 1 or Mark 2? The mark 1 would be close to 300 Watts into 8 ohms. 540 into 4.
 
While everyone is on the Quilter Bass Block 803 hotness, I bought a used BB800. It is dead simple, plenty loud, takes my pedals really nice for a warm/tube-y sound.

The BB800 is probably harder to get at this point but I’ve seen a couple of 803s here and there for $550-600 range. Great deal.
 
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From your OP, looks like you are in Australia, which limits your options and impacts your budget. I used to own the GK 1001, I liked it ok but its also big and heavy and would blow up your cabinet without even blinking. The Quilter is great, if you could find a used Mesa Subway D800 or a Genzler Magellan you'd be in good shape.
 
It was an bass amp. It definitely didn't sound bad but it never did anything that made me go: "Oh shag yeah"

Here's the Tough Love part of this thread:

The best bass amps will never make you say "Oh shag yeah"

They'll just sound like your bass. Loud.

Now, there are plenty of crap amps that will make you say "Oh shag no!"
But the difference between one that sounds Good Enough To Be Usable, and one that sounds As Good As It Is Possible For A Bass Amp To Sound, is surprisingly slim. The thing that separates the cream of the crop from the middle-of-the-road amps isn't their sound; it's their reliability/durability
(...and, to a much lesser extent, their features).

Besides, you already own a silverface Fender Bassman. You've got "Oh shag yeah" covered ...and you've discovered that "Oh shag yeah" comes at a cost (convenience).
Now just get a convenient bass amp that doesn't suck, and get on with making music.
 
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I love my GK Legacy, but i’ll echo that the mesa d800 or Genzler Magellan are also great options. A used GK, Mesa, or Genzler should fit your budget.

If you really love the Bassman, a more recent Bassman 500 or 800 would be around 17 pounds (hybrid amp). They would be borderline in the budget area if used, and you might need to save a bit to get one in the condition you wanted.

But, if you have a HX Stomp, you could get a Seymour Duncan Powerstage Bass new for that money and model the amp you want into it. Of course, you could also do the same by bypassing the preamp of *any* amp by running the stomp into the effects return — just using the stomp model with the amp’s power section.

In the end tho … your decision to play them personally is smart. When I bought mine, I went into the store pretty sure I was going to leave with a Mesa D800+, but found I liked the Tone Hammer better. I held off and the next trip revealed the Legacy and Magellan — which were the two that were neck and neck up until the end. Getting your hands on them makes a ton of difference.
 
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