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Got $400 to spend only at GC - Gas'ing for M13

#62
TaySte_2000 said:
Ok a proper example

In series everything runs in a line so lets take 4 fx and run them in series

Octaver - Fuzz - Chorus - Delay

So you are running these and you are running all 4 at a time meaning the octaver signal gets fuzzed up and then the fuzzy octave signal gets chorus'd and all 3 then get delay'd
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In practical application, is this what most people are doing anyway when running two or three basic effects, say chorus, distortion, and maybe one other? Or does it sound much better to say, have just the distortion signal distorted and the chorus clean? Or would you want the distortion to be chorused as well?
 
#63
walknbluez said:
In practical application, is this what most people are doing anyway when running two or three basic effects, say chorus, distortion, and maybe one other? Or does it sound much better to say, have just the distortion signal distorted and the chorus clean? Or would you want the distortion to be chorused as well?
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The thing is it's not necessarily better one way or the other. Having a parallel path simply allows for more options, and for you that additional option may be better. A lot of people run Octave> Filter, and that sounds great, but my preference is to run my Octave in parallel with a HP or BP Filter which gives the bass a strong two layer, almost two instrument tone. I LOVE THIS TONE. I could never get it with a series signal path no matter how hard I tried. There are tons of options on how to use parallel paths, but I find I like it best to try to create a two instrument tone. YMMV.
 
#64
cheapbasslovin said:
The thing is it's not necessarily better one way or the other. Having a parallel path simply allows for more options, and for you that additional option may be better. A lot of people run Octave> Filter, and that sounds great, but my preference is to run my Octave in parallel with a HP or BP Filter which gives the bass a strong two layer, almost two instrument tone. I LOVE THIS TONE. I could never get it with a series signal path no matter how hard I tried. There are tons of options on how to use parallel paths, but I find I like it best to try to create a two instrument tone. YMMV.
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Actually, I think that may be exactly what I'm looking for! But it does require a separate pedal to blend right?
 
#65
Robertron said:
Wow I didn't know the M13 could do that. I understand why so many like them now!

OP, go for it!
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I want to and it's comments like yours that just may push me over the fence!

Here's how I'm looking at it:

M13 - $500
Expression pedal - $50
Boss LS-2 - $90
Amp repair (which is how I got the GC check in the first place) - $140

Total $780 (damn that added up fast)

$ burning a hole in my pocket. $400 GC credit, $55 local music store credit. $455 total

$780 - $455 = $325 out of pocket

So for $325 I'm getting amp repaired plus all that.
 
#66
walknbluez said:
Actually, I think that may be exactly what I'm looking for! But it does require a separate pedal to blend right?
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Yes, but be sure that you use a dual parallel looper, and not just a blend pedal. A dual parallel loop pedal can be used as a blend if one of the loops is run with no effects. A simple blender only has one loop and cannot be used to join two separate paths, it will only blend an effect signal with clean bass.

Dual loopers include, but are not limited to:

Boss LS-2, Badger Schism, Wounded Paw Super Blender (this one has three loops), Silent Fly Split and Mix, Silent Fly Crossover and Mix.
 
#68
walknbluez said:
The M's have EQ's and blend settings built into the effects? The reason I'm confused about this is because as I read in this thread I thought you needed a separate pedal to blend?
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Sorry I missed this earlier.

Some of the distortions really emphasize the mid-highs and are hard to dial them down for bass. Some of them are fine. None of the distortion models have a mix option. Peeps love the mix option.

Using the parallel looper I can blend my bass with my dirt, but I rarely notice much benefit when I do (unless I want the clean bass under a drone effect or something like that.

I run an English Muff'n post parallel for the sake of livening my distortion sound. It livens up other distortions better than any other pedal I've used.



A lot of people use a Ernie Ball VPJr 25Kohm volume pedal. 25k, not 250k. The difference is huge.
 
#69
cheapbasslovin said:
Sorry I missed this earlier.

Some of the distortions really emphasize the mid-highs and are hard to dial them down for bass. Some of them are fine. None of the distortion models have a mix option. Peeps love the mix option.

Using the parallel looper I can blend my bass with my dirt, but I rarely notice much benefit when I do (unless I want the clean bass under a drone effect or something like that.

I run an English Muff'n post parallel for the sake of livening my distortion sound. It livens up other distortions better than any other pedal I've used.



A lot of people use a Ernie Ball VPJr 25Kohm volume pedal. 25k, not 250k. The difference is huge.
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But as I think someone else stated, could I put an EQ on as one of the effects along with distortion as a second effect and EQ it so the distortion emphasizes the bass more?
 
#70
walknbluez said:
By the way, I'm thinking of getting the expression pedal with it. I read some reviews on another site and it didn't fare well (plastic etc). Are there others that are compatible? Any recommendations?
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I'll echo the Ernie Ball VP Jr. 25K pedal. Not the 250K...it won't work. Line 6 has a listing on their website for compatible expression pedals.

Don't necessarily be put off by plastic. You may be nowhere near as careless with a plastic pedal as the person who wrote the review.
 
#71
Mo'Phat said:
I'll echo the Ernie Ball VP Jr. 25K pedal. Not the 250K...it won't work. Line 6 has a listing on their website for compatible expression pedals.

Don't necessarily be put off by plastic. You may be nowhere near as careless with a plastic pedal as the person who wrote the review.
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I was just thinking, can one pedal be used as both an expression and volume pedal or will I need to get TWO pedals?
 

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