GR does have a 1x10 combo. It is wood, not the lighter material.
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All the GR Bass cabs are supposed to have the same transparent tone (no strong voicing), so they probably sound quite similar. Basically, your hear the tone of your instrument (and amp). It's more a question of form factor preference, maybe the dispersion is different, and you should also think of future modularity (what other cab would you like to add afterwards, is it the same width as the 2x12 or the 4x10?).
But you can also ask to [email protected], they are very responsive and helpful.
The active 10” with a preamp pedal would work well. I use a Active 210 with a Genzler preamp.
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Took my AT 410+ out for its first gig last night, powering it with my DB 751. Extraordinarily happy with it! Solid, warm, *loud* and the load in/out was actually enjoyable!
I downsized from 2 Berg HDN212's to a AT210 (diagonal 600W) / AT115 stack. This rig is clean and articulate, has plenty of lows that hit you in the gut and can easily hit ear damaging SPL's.
I went with that specific combo to get the sound up towards my ears and from a recommendation from John Fox Bass who prefers that combo of cabs out of their entire lineup. They do sound different as stand alone cabs so do your research on what you'd prefer.
I power it with 2 different amps, a Berg Forte HP and Mesa Carbine M6.
The Berg cabs sound great but down sizing to 20 lb cabs is a game changer if you have the cash!!!
Clear, articulate, punchy with nice lows. I have an AT212 Slim (23lbs) and an AT212+ Slim One1400 combo (34lbs) great sound from both.
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I'm biased since I have an AT Cube 500 (with a 12) and an AT 112 cab, but I preferred the AT112H+ to the AT210+ in the first video. That said, the 10" speaker in my practice amp (a Rumble Studio 40) is very capable.
Love my Barefaced cab, but the prospect of getting something even lighter has me intrigued. Does anyone know what the difference between the AT 112H and AT 112 H+ is? The latter appears to weigh about 1 lb more.
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Less barking, more wagging!
The difference is the power handling of the speaker. The + is 450 watts, think the non+ is 350 watts.
Yes the 112 H+ has a different driver higher power handling. I own the “NF” version (same weight, looks nicer (to me)). I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of a new Barefaced super compact T. I probably can’t really justify keeping both. We shall see.
This? That looks really sharp.
https://reverb.com/item/77359313-gr...iber-1x12-450-watt-8-ohm-bass-speaker-cabinet
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I have the “H” version, not the cube version, they have a lot of variants! But yes that is the cabinet material.
Well, I took the plunge and took a chance on the NF 112H+. Reverb seller Specialty Traders offered a 30-day return so I figured I couldn’t lose. I went with the NF (natural fiber) version because I like the vintage look. So - it was a “showdown” between the GR and the Barefaced Big Baby 2 Gen 3 I’ve been using the past couple of years since I picked it over an Acme Low B112 Full Range ( see here ).
At 17 lbs., the thing is insanely (and delightfully) lightweight! It does have something of a hollow sound when rapping on the cabinet, which is a little disconcerting. That’s a big “no-no” with well-made, hi-fi home theater speakers, but I can see how it might be considered an intentional “voicing” feature for a bass or guitar cabinet.
A common description of the GR cabs on this thread is that they sound “articulate,” "clear," and “transparent." I think I’d describe it as having hi-fi or “flat” sound, which is merely another way of saying the same thing.
The BF does seem to have more bottom end. But a little testing with a parametric EQ* (connected across my amp’s EFX loop) shows it has a pronounced “hot spot” at about 90-100 Hz. That has the effect of enhancing the perceived low end, but it also makes things sound a bit “loose” and bloated everywhere on the neck (except perhaps the 2nd octave of the G string).
Compared to the BF, the GR sounds tight and uniform up and down the neck, even with the lowest notes on my 5-stringers. In my previous comparison between the Baby and the Acme, and I also felt the Acme sounded smoother and tighter than the Baby.
I took the GR to a little gig right after I got it, in the “party room” at a local restaurant. In a bigger room (than my small living room, that is) the low end did seem a tad shy on the B string notes (I was kinda expecting that), but a slight boost of the bass knob on the amp was all it needed (and I do mean “slight,” like half-way between 12:00 and 1:00).
To my surprise, I got a compliment afterwards on the way the bass sounded. This person has been at previous gigs I’ve done with the same band at the same venue with the BF and Acme speakers, and this was the first time she (or anyone) has said anything.
BF claims the Big Baby 2 Gen 3 gives most 4-10s a run for the money. That’s definitely a great thing if you need that kind of output. I don’t, since I don’t do any loud gigs. My situation is, at 69 I’m not getting any younger, so lighter is definitely better. The fact that I like the GR’s sound better is the icing on the cake. It's a keeper. The Baby will go up for sale.
I was concerned about the practical aspects of gigging with the GR though, mainly that its hard cabinet material may crack if it takes a hit or gets dropped. Since the 1-12 cabinets I’ve been using the past few years are small (the Acme, BF, and now the GR), I like to set them on a portable folding stool to have easier access to the amp on top. The problem with the GR is its light weight potentially makes it easy to knock over. Not to mention the cabinet is friggin’ slippery, which would seem to make that even more of a danger.
I thought an amp stand would be a good idea, but typically they tilt the cabinet at really severe angles. That’s not going to work if you have an outboard amp like I do.
Eventually I came across this one from ProLine. Compared to the others it only tilts a few degrees, so it’s “amp on top” friendly. In addition, the arms have rubber strips to keep the cabinet from sliding around. That takes care of “slippery” issue. It was only $50 or so, and my local Guitar Center had it in stock.
* The technique with the parametric EQ is to boost a filter to 6 dB or so and set the bandwidth for about 1/3 octave. Start the frequency knob with low setting, maybe 30 Hz. Have someone play a repetitive note on your bass on the lower end of the E string, and slowly turn (“sweep”) the frequency knob towards higher frequencies. If the cabinet has a “hot spot,” it will jump out like crazy when you hit that frequency. The good news is, you can cut that frequency a few dB and it will make the cabinet sound flatter and less bloated. YMMV as to whether you think that actually sounds better.
Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt
Make Your Own Cables: A How-To Guide Unique Arrangements of Hymns, P&W Standards, and Original Tunes
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At 17 lbs., the thing is insanely (and delightfully) lightweight! It does have something of a hollow sound when rapping on the cabinet, which is a little disconcerting. That’s a big “no-no” with well-made, hi-fi home theater speakers, but I can see how it might be considered an intentional “voicing” feature for a bass or guitar cabinet.
A common description of the GR cabs on this thread is that they sound “articulate,” "clear," and “transparent." I think I’d describe it as having hi-fi or “flat” sound, which is merely another way of saying the same thing.
The BF does seem to have more bottom end. But a little testing with a parametric EQ* (connected across my amp’s EFX loop) shows it has a pronounced “hot spot” at about 90-100 Hz. That has the effect of enhancing the perceived low end, but it also makes things sound a bit “loose” and bloated everywhere on the neck (except perhaps the 2nd octave of the G string).
Compared to the BF, the GR sounds tight and uniform up and down the neck, even with the lowest notes on my 5-stringers. In my previous comparison between the Baby and the Acme, and I also felt the Acme sounded smoother and tighter than the Baby.
I took the GR to a little gig right after I got it, in the “party room” at a local restaurant. In a bigger room (than my small living room, that is) the low end did seem a tad shy on the B string notes (I was kinda expecting that), but a slight boost of the bass knob on the amp was all it needed (and I do mean “slight,” like half-way between 12:00 and 1:00).
To my surprise, I got a compliment afterwards on the way the bass sounded. This person has been at previous gigs I’ve done with the same band at the same venue with the BF and Acme speakers, and this was the first time she (or anyone) has said anything.
BF claims the Big Baby 2 Gen 3 gives most 4-10s a run for the money. That’s definitely a great thing if you need that kind of output. I don’t, since I don’t do any loud gigs. My situation is, at 69 I’m not getting any younger, so lighter is definitely better. The fact that I like the GR’s sound better is the icing on the cake. It's a keeper. The Baby will go up for sale.
I was concerned about the practical aspects of gigging with the GR though, mainly that its hard cabinet material may crack if it takes a hit or gets dropped. Since the 1-12 cabinets I’ve been using the past few years are small (the Acme, BF, and now the GR), I like to set them on a portable folding stool to have easier access to the amp on top. The problem with the GR is its light weight potentially makes it easy to knock over. Not to mention the cabinet is friggin’ slippery, which would seem to make that even more of a danger.
I thought an amp stand would be a good idea, but typically they tilt the cabinet at really severe angles. That’s not going to work if you have an outboard amp like I do.
Eventually I came across this one from ProLine. Compared to the others it only tilts a few degrees, so it’s “amp on top” friendly. In addition, the arms have rubber strips to keep the cabinet from sliding around. That takes care of “slippery” issue. It was only $50 or so, and my local Guitar Center had it in stock.
* The technique with the parametric EQ is to boost a filter to 6 dB or so and set the bandwidth for about 1/3 octave. Start the frequency knob with low setting, maybe 30 Hz. Have someone play a repetitive note on your bass on the lower end of the E string, and slowly turn (“sweep”) the frequency knob towards higher frequencies. If the cabinet has a “hot spot,” it will jump out like crazy when you hit that frequency. The good news is, you can cut that frequency a few dB and it will make the cabinet sound flatter and less bloated. YMMV as to whether you think that actually sounds better.
Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt
Make Your Own Cables: A How-To Guide Unique Arrangements of Hymns, P&W Standards, and Original Tunes
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So after all of those details…Well, I took the plunge and took a chance on the NF 112H+. Reverb seller Specialty Traders offered a 30-day return so I figured I couldn’t lose. I went with the NF (natural fiber) version because I like the vintage look. So - it was a “showdown” between the GR and the Barefaced Big Baby 2 Gen 3 I’ve been using the past couple of years since I picked it over an Acme Low B112 Full Range ( see here ).
At 17 lbs., the thing is insanely (and delightfully) lightweight! It does have something of a hollow sound when rapping on the cabinet, which is a little disconcerting. That’s a big “no-no” with well-made, hi-fi home theater speakers, but I can see how it might be considered an intentional “voicing” feature for a bass or guitar cabinet.
A common description of the GR cabs on this thread is that they sound “articulate,” "clear," and “transparent." I think I’d describe it as having hi-fi or “flat” sound, which is merely another way of saying the same thing.
The BF does seem to have more bottom end. But a little testing with a parametric EQ* (connected across my amp’s EFX loop) shows it has a pronounced “hot spot” at about 90-100 Hz. That has the effect of enhancing the perceived low end, but it also makes things sound a bit “loose” and bloated everywhere on the neck (except perhaps the 2nd octave of the G string).
Compared to the BF, the GR sounds tight and uniform up and down the neck, even with the lowest notes on my 5-stringers. In my previous comparison between the Baby and the Acme, and I also felt the Acme sounded smoother and tighter than the Baby.
I took the GR to a little gig right after I got it, in the “party room” at a local restaurant. In a bigger room (than my small living room, that is) the low end did seem a tad shy on the B string notes (I was kinda expecting that), but a slight boost of the bass knob on the amp was all it needed (and I do mean “slight,” like half-way between 12:00 and 1:00).
To my surprise, I got a compliment afterwards on the way the bass sounded. This person has been at previous gigs I’ve done with the same band at the same venue with the BF and Acme speakers, and this was the first time she (or anyone) has said anything.
BF claims the Big Baby 2 Gen 3 gives most 4-10s a run for the money. That’s definitely a great thing if you need that kind of output. I don’t, since I don’t do any loud gigs. My situation is, at 69 I’m not getting any younger, so lighter is definitely better. The fact that I like the GR’s sound better is the icing on the cake. It's a keeper. The Baby will go up for sale.
I was concerned about the practical aspects of gigging with the GR though, mainly that its hard cabinet material may crack if it takes a hit or gets dropped. Since the 1-12 cabinets I’ve been using the past few years are small (the Acme, BF, and now the GR), I like to set them on a portable folding stool to have easier access to the amp on top. The problem with the GR is its light weight potentially makes it easy to knock over. Not to mention the cabinet is friggin’ slippery, which would seem to make that even more of a danger.
I thought an amp stand would be a good idea, but typically they tilt the cabinet at really severe angles. That’s not going to work if you have an outboard amp like I do.
Eventually I came across this one from ProLine. Compared to the others it only tilts a few degrees, so it’s “amp on top” friendly. In addition, the arms have rubber strips to keep the cabinet from sliding around. That takes care of “slippery” issue. It was only $50 or so, and my local Guitar Center had it in stock.
* The technique with the parametric EQ is to boost a filter to 6 dB or so and set the bandwidth for about 1/3 octave. Start the frequency knob with low setting, maybe 30 Hz. Have someone play a repetitive note on your bass on the lower end of the E string, and slowly turn (“sweep”) the frequency knob towards higher frequencies. If the cabinet has a “hot spot,” it will jump out like crazy when you hit that frequency. The good news is, you can cut that frequency a few dB and it will make the cabinet sound flatter and less bloated. YMMV as to whether you think that actually sounds better.
Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt
Make Your Own Cables: A How-To Guide Unique Arrangements of Hymns, P&W Standards, and Original Tunes
Official Pedulla Club #45
Administrator, Official Heartfield Club #36
Administrator, Official Tobias Club #133
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Well, I took the plunge and took a chance on the NF 112H+. Reverb seller Specialty Traders offered a 30-day return so I figured I couldn’t lose. I went with the NF (natural fiber) version because I like the vintage look. So - it was a “showdown” between the GR and the Barefaced Big Baby 2 Gen 3 I’ve been using the past couple of years since I picked it over an Acme Low B112 Full Range ( see here ).
At 17 lbs., the thing is insanely (and delightfully) lightweight! It does have something of a hollow sound when rapping on the cabinet, which is a little disconcerting. That’s a big “no-no” with well-made, hi-fi home theater speakers, but I can see how it might be considered an intentional “voicing” feature for a bass or guitar cabinet.
A common description of the GR cabs on this thread is that they sound “articulate,” "clear," and “transparent." I think I’d describe it as having hi-fi or “flat” sound, which is merely another way of saying the same thing.
The BF does seem to have more bottom end. But a little testing with a parametric EQ* (connected across my amp’s EFX loop) shows it has a pronounced “hot spot” at about 90-100 Hz. That has the effect of enhancing the perceived low end, but it also makes things sound a bit “loose” and bloated everywhere on the neck (except perhaps the 2nd octave of the G string).
Compared to the BF, the GR sounds tight and uniform up and down the neck, even with the lowest notes on my 5-stringers. In my previous comparison between the Baby and the Acme, and I also felt the Acme sounded smoother and tighter than the Baby.
I took the GR to a little gig right after I got it, in the “party room” at a local restaurant. In a bigger room (than my small living room, that is) the low end did seem a tad shy on the B string notes (I was kinda expecting that), but a slight boost of the bass knob on the amp was all it needed (and I do mean “slight,” like half-way between 12:00 and 1:00).
To my surprise, I got a compliment afterwards on the way the bass sounded. This person has been at previous gigs I’ve done with the same band at the same venue with the BF and Acme speakers, and this was the first time she (or anyone) has said anything.
BF claims the Big Baby 2 Gen 3 gives most 4-10s a run for the money. That’s definitely a great thing if you need that kind of output. I don’t, since I don’t do any loud gigs. My situation is, at 69 I’m not getting any younger, so lighter is definitely better. The fact that I like the GR’s sound better is the icing on the cake. It's a keeper. The Baby will go up for sale.
I was concerned about the practical aspects of gigging with the GR though, mainly that its hard cabinet material may crack if it takes a hit or gets dropped. Since the 1-12 cabinets I’ve been using the past few years are small (the Acme, BF, and now the GR), I like to set them on a portable folding stool to have easier access to the amp on top. The problem with the GR is its light weight potentially makes it easy to knock over. Not to mention the cabinet is friggin’ slippery, which would seem to make that even more of a danger.
I thought an amp stand would be a good idea, but typically they tilt the cabinet at really severe angles. That’s not going to work if you have an outboard amp like I do.
Eventually I came across this one from ProLine. Compared to the others it only tilts a few degrees, so it’s “amp on top” friendly. In addition, the arms have rubber strips to keep the cabinet from sliding around. That takes care of “slippery” issue. It was only $50 or so, and my local Guitar Center had it in stock.
* The technique with the parametric EQ is to boost a filter to 6 dB or so and set the bandwidth for about 1/3 octave. Start the frequency knob with low setting, maybe 30 Hz. Have someone play a repetitive note on your bass on the lower end of the E string, and slowly turn (“sweep”) the frequency knob towards higher frequencies. If the cabinet has a “hot spot,” it will jump out like crazy when you hit that frequency. The good news is, you can cut that frequency a few dB and it will make the cabinet sound flatter and less bloated. YMMV as to whether you think that actually sounds better.
Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt
Make Your Own Cables: A How-To Guide Unique Arrangements of Hymns, P&W Standards, and Original Tunes
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Administrator, Official Heartfield Club #36
Administrator, Official Tobias Club #133
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I am dutifully impressed that you are still gigging at our age.
I haven't 'played out' for years (I stay in the sanctuary). It's cool that GR is providing such a good sounding lightweight cab to make things manageable for us vintage folks. 
Deep down in the text you'll find this: "The fact that I like the GR’s sound better is the icing on the cake. It's a keeper. The Baby will go up for sale."So after all of those details…
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Wayne A. Pflughaupt
Make Your Own Cables: A How-To Guide Unique Arrangements of Hymns, P&W Standards, and Original Tunes
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Administrator, Official Heartfield Club #36
Administrator, Official Tobias Club #133
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My Rig: Stage and FOH Friendly
Make Your Own Cables: A How-To Guide
What happened to this thread? Anyone still playing the AT cabs these days, and how are they holding up long term? I’ve been a longtime Mesa Subway cab user, but my back is definitely starting to pull me toward the lighter weight options 
