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Great Modern Day Bassists (BESIDES FLEA)

What, exactly, makes Flea great?

I mean, I enjoy some RHCP from time to time and he definitely gets the job done, but I haven't heard anything from him that would cause me to rank him as a great among all the bassists I've heard.

I never can classify anyone as the "the best", but he is one of my more favorite bass players to listen to. Some of the reasons I like him.

- endurance and energy (makes him a good live musician)
- extremely fast and aggresive playing style (and accurate)
- versatile player (can play funk, slap, rock, blues, etc)
- experienced and a huge contributor in the music world

I guess you could say he has surrounded himself with amazing musicians, John Frusciante is mega talented and Chad Smith is a beast on the drums. One of the better drummers out today (has been compared to the likes of Bonham).

Anyways, thumb up to Paul Turner. I didn't even really know who he was until he came on the scene with Jamiroquai. He is really really good. Very musical bass player.
 
What, exactly, makes Flea great?
I mean, I enjoy some RHCP from time to time and he definitely gets the job done, but I haven't heard anything from him that would cause me to rank him as a great among all the bassists I've heard.



??? Well I could also ask what the hell makes everyone else mentioned in the thread great? I am not a die hard fan of Flea, but he has talent. Go listen to all the stuff Flea has done with RHCP, and I am not talking just the hits, and tell me that he is not as good as some of these guys. Sure he is not the greatest of all time, he is sure better than some of the guys mentioned. For example Cliff Burton, talk about sloppy playing
 
Oh, for Pete's Sake...

[soapbox]
Flea is, hands-down, the absolute BEST...at playing Flea Basslines. No one can even touch him at playing his lines. He's got his own voice-though, like any player, his influences are apparent to those who've educated themselves to the history of the Bass Guitar. He's also got tons of charisma, and is a pretty great all-around musician (plays the trumpet, I think, and was a big Chet Baker fan--see "Let's Get Lost" if you haven't.)

Technically, there are at least 100 guys who can out-play, outspeed, outslap, and out-WOW Flea. Many of them have been listed here. But, you see.....no one is really TRYING to. The guys (and gals) named on this list have, instead, focused on something WAY more important...playing like themselves. Finding, and nurturing, their voice. Working on "locking" with the rhythm section. Supporting the melodic line. Crafting a unique and musical tone.

Someone called this thread and "Epic Fail," and I was going to agree, but then I realized that what we have here, gentlemen, is a "teachable moment." Flea has done wonders for the Bass World, no question...he's helped to put the instrument Out Front amongst folks of a certain age and disposition. I personally enjoy his playing. A recent article in Bass Player was really quite good...he supports education and he strikes me as a cool guy. I think he would be the first to tell you that a guy like, say, Victor Wooten, jsut to mention one name I think we can all agree on, can play circles around him. But Victor is playing "Victor's lines," not Flea's lines. Victor, and Flea, both know and understand this.

I would just urge anyone who thinks Flea is the greatest thing to happen to electric bass guitar to explore some of these other players, and other styles of music. Flea, after all, is a well-rounded musician. RHCP certainly have their punk roots, but it's obvious Flea has spent a lot of time listening to 70's Old School Funk and Soul, not to mention classic fusion. Less apparent, but still discernable, is his love of Jazz. So, if you dig Flea.........check out some of his influences. And follow those influences down the years to some of the other cats, mentioned here in this thread, that have built on those influences in different ways. [/soapbox]
 
- endurance and energy (makes him a good live musician)
- extremely fast and aggresive playing style (and accurate)
- versatile player (can play funk, slap, rock, blues, etc)
- experienced and a huge contributor in the music world

I'd say these requirements are pretty generalized and certainly subjective.

For example Michael Manring is a big contributor to a certain musical realm as Flea is a contributor to another.

I do not consider Slap as a style - but rather a specific technique that can be applied to a numebr of styles.

I think fast and aggressive is more narrow than you other requirements of endurance, energy, versatility, and experience. For better or worse.

I still like Dan Andriano from alkaline trio - but I naturally regard bassists that can sing above super technical bassists that cannot sing. consider it MY own subjective requirement for a "modern" bassist.

And since Flea doesn't really sing - (except for Little Pea) that means there are MANY modern bassists that edge him out.

Hell I just saw Mastodon. Troy Sanders IS the voice of that band - his bass playing simply helps to fill out a dizzyingly technical mix.
 
Best bass players around imho, is a relatively unknown guy by the name of Mike Frost. He plays with Estaban, but I see him play with his own band "The Deep II". Its 2 bass players and a drummer. I have seen a lot of todays more famous bass players (Marcus, Victor, Stanley, Meshell to name a few) and I think Mike is as good as any of them. He is amazingly versatile, tap, slap, pop, fingerstyle, jazz, funk, rock, pop, blues whatever... he has mastered them all and is musical and tasteful in his use of them. I cant for the life of me figure out why he isnt more famous because he will shame a lot of guys that are.
 
I'd say these requirements are pretty generalized and certainly subjective.

For example Michael Manring is a big contributor to a certain musical realm as Flea is a contributor to another.

I do not consider Slap as a style - but rather a specific technique that can be applied to a numebr of styles.

I think fast and aggressive is more narrow than you other requirements of endurance, energy, versatility, and experience. For better or worse.

I still like Dan Andriano from alkaline trio - but I naturally regard bassists that can sing above super technical bassists that cannot sing. consider it MY own subjective requirement for a "modern" bassist.

And since Flea doesn't really sing - (except for Little Pea) that means there are MANY modern bassists that edge him out.

Hell I just saw Mastodon. Troy Sanders IS the voice of that band - his bass playing simply helps to fill out a dizzyingly technical mix.

Never said he was the "best", just said I happen to like him for the reasons I mentioned. He brings a lot to the table. He is a seasoned veteran in the music arena, professionally.

Hey I like Aston Barret, not the best bassist in the world but the man can hold down a rhythm and has really really good timing.