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Guitar Center Screwed Me Again

Call Ares Capital. 212 710-2100. Ares runs GC. Ares converted their loans to GC to equity, so they are in control. Ask for the managing partner for domestic private equity, retail.

I'm sorry, but do you really think this executive is going to take the call of some guy who's annoyed that he missed out on a low end bass?
 
See airline ticketing protocols... Maybe, United is getting into 'selling' guitars, online...

"There you are, sir... One MM Sub, with a bag of peanuts... minus the Sub, that'll be $500.". Serious, sorry about your luck... all I can say is all of us have probably experienced something close to this... never been more true that, 'timing is everything'.

On a side note, I was in GC the other day, and things are so bad with them (IMO), I walked the store for an hour and couldn't get rid of a couple of gift cards... from 2014.[/QUOTE]
 
The great thing about being a big company is you have buying power - you buy in such bulk, you get huge discounts and can control what the manufacturers are even making! But there comes a cost at being big - you can't react quickly.

A small business can change quick to meet customer demands. Going online sales with a single POS system is easy. Switchover can be done in a weekend - instead of being a 3 year project costing $30M and needing a full team of employees and managers to implement it.

GC's "big" characteristics forced a lot if small mom and pop stores out of business. They attracted buyers with their huge selection and low prices. The M&P stores had to adapt to stay alive. Now that same big business issue is starting to work against them. Money is tight, and they can't just switch up their business model overnight.

We might someday see the return of the local mom and pop stores.

(As an aside, I had a business plan about 10 years ago to form a music instrument retail company - as a consortium of local mom and pop stores. So the mom and pop stores would join my company, like "Bob's Music - an Ashtray Company", and then I'd have 100+ small shops joined and can get them bulk discount pricing and selections they couldn't get on their own. It was an idea to level the playing fields so all the small businesses would have the same buying power as GC. Obviously it was more project than I was willing to take on, but it would have been interesting!)
 
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The great thing about being a big company is you have buying power - you buy in such bulk, you get huge discounts and can control what the manufacturers are even making! But there comes a cost at being big - you can't react quickly.

A small business can change quick to meet customer demands. Going online sales with a single POS system is easy. Switchover can be done in a weekend - instead of being a 3 year project costing $30M and needing a full team of employees and managers to implement it.

GC's "big" characteristics forced a lot if small mom and pop stores out of business. They attracted buyers with their huge selection and low prices. The M&P stores had to adapt to stay alive. Now that same big business issue is starting to work against them. Money is tight, and they can't just switch up their business model overnight.

We might someday see the return of the local mom and pop stores.

(As an aside, I had a business plan about 10 years ago to form a music instrument retail company - as a consortium of local mom and pop stores. So the mom and pop stores would join my company, like "Bob's Music - an Ashtray Company", and then I'd have 100+ small shops joined and can get them bulk discount pricing and selections they couldn't get on their own. It was an idea to level the playing fields so all the small businesses would have the same buying power as GC. Obviously it was more project than I was willing to take on, but it would have been interesting!)

I usually see big businesses roll out such changes little by little. So one or two of their most popular stores will make the change, and over a couple years more and more of their small stores will make the changes as well.
 
Best bet is to call the store before buying it and try to buy it over the phone. At least then you'll be talking with the person who has the item and the item is in their database. Skip the online queue.

I've bought three used basses from them and this is how I do it. Not intentionally, but that's just how it's always worked out. My reason for calling was to get feedback on the instrument. I've not been disappointed yet.
 
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I used to be GC customer service at their call center. Technically Musician's Friend but GC owns MF so they are the same. Anyway, while I was under their employment, there were a lot of technical errors that went on. Mainly because they had some outdated software and equipment. That definitely made things complicated. That type of thing would happen from time to time but not very often. We were however trained to handle it appropriately and make sure you get your money back.

My guess is since you used a credit card, you will get a full refund or that can be used towards In House Credit. It might take a day or two depending on the type of card and your bank. It is also into the weekend so that may or may not effect that amount of time for your funds to be returned. I would just call them back tomorrow about it.

All that being said, I prefer to shop local and avoid actually going into the GC stores at almost all costs. Maybe for a used gem find but that would probably be it. That is a bummer man. Hope everything works out.
 
This morning while perusing the GC used website I found a MusicMan USA Sub bass in Blue for a good price so without hesitation, I pulled the trigger and ordered online.

Immediately after placing the order, as I would expect, the listing on their website changed to read "This Item Is No Longer Available."

I go about my day only to receive an email later saying "Your Order is Out of Stock."

GC Sold the bass to someone else. They had the bass listed as abailable, took my CC payment, and later told me they sold it to someone else.

This has happened to me several times even though once is far too many times.

There were no other 4 strings in inventory and even if there were, they would not guarantee giving me one at the same price because it is up to each and every store. Which is the line I got the last few times this happened.

This makes me wonder what is the point of using their website. I am livid and wanted to share this with the world because this is horrible customer service.

They told me that several people could order the same item online so they take the first one that comes up in the queue.

We read about them being in financial duress so I wonder if this is a ploy to trap cash.

Livid! I have bought over 200 used basses from them. You would think they would want to help me figure something out...

First off, sorry for not reading the entire thread…all 120+ posts!

Second, I can understand your frustration. I've been there too, so you have my sympathy. However, my sympathy for your situation is tempered by my knowledge of the iniquities of technology and my understanding that not everything works like some magically-foolproof and well-oiled machine. It sucks, but that's the reality of the situation.

Third, here's my advice, which I'm sure more than a few fellow TB'ers have already suggested, but here it goes anyway…call the store first.

Because of my run-ins with those aforementioned "technological iniquities", I always call a store to confirm they still have what I'm looking at. Then, while I have someone on the line, I ask for a rundown of their impressions of the instrument and the state of certain aspects (neck condition, etc…) that aren't immediately apparent from one or two, dinky web-pics. In fact, the last time I bought something that was halfway across the continent, which also ended up being the most expensive instrument I've ever purchased, I made damn sure I got a bunch more pictures taken and emailed to me first.

On a side-note, if I'm not sure if I really-and-for-truly want to make an instrument mine, but I'd like some security while deciding upon it, I call the store and put a 25% layaway payment down to make sure I get first pick.
 
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