Guitar pickups in basses

[MYLOWFREQ]

my attitude custom has a hidden humbucker at the neck position under the pickguard

 

[Steve Dallman]

When I played 4 string, I used a lot of guitar pickups in basses, always with great results. Today, I use a Line 6 Variax, and use the Danelectro model 90% of the time. I used to have a Dano doubleneck and the bass sounded great. The L6 model does it well...with no hum.

I put an EMG SA strat pickup in a Musicmaster, and later a Bill Lawrence blade Strat pickup. Both were far better than the original pickup...especially the EMG active.

 

[Mantis Tobaggan]

Do they make a six string one but with guitar strings?

 

[Ric5]

The original Fender single p-bass pickup was a guitar pickup with 4 poles instead of 6. Pretty much all Rickenbacker pickups are guitar pickups. Back in the early days basses got guitar pickups.

 

[NortyFiner]

Seymour Duncan himself has actually recommended his Vintage Rail and Cool Rail guitar pickups for certain basses, like Squier Broncos.

 

[123Nil]

The Squier Bronco

 

[123Nil]

Seymour Duncan himself has actually recommended his Vintage Rail and Cool Rail guitar pickups for certain basses, like Squier Broncos.

Just beat me to it..lol.. Really kool little bass to play

 

[Molochnik]

As mentioned earlier, the Bronco lends itself to using guitar pickups. I have one Bronco with a Dimarzio BC-2 in the stock "mid" position with a Duncan quarter pounder single coil at the bridge.
I built another using a Bronco neck that originally used a couple of GFS humbucking lipstick pickups at the neck and mid positions. The lipsticks gave a sweet warbly sound, but pulled on the strings so much that they buzzed when fretted above the 7th fret. I swapped them out for two more BC-2s with a BC-2 still at the bridge and wired it like a strat.
Both basses are extremely powerful and dark...as I like them. They can also be dialed out to a bitey tone too if necessary.
I haven't experimented with too many different guitar pickups other than the lipsticks, BC-2s, and one other DiMarzio I can't think of right now, but It is definitely doable and in some cases well worth it.

 

[Mechayoshi]

I think the Gibson G3 has the same pickups as one of their guitar. That's a more obscure example though.

 

[Bajo Clarkko]

I invite anyone more knowledgeable than myself to weigh in, but it's my understanding that the Gibson Thunderbird pickup was created by wiring together a pair of surplus Melody Maker pickup, of which Gibson had a substantial inventory. It sounds plausible to me.
Thunderbird experts?

 

[/\/\3phist0]

For several years in the late 70's/early 80's Carvin guitars and basses used the same pickup.
It had something like 18 pole pieces.

Spacing is really the main issue. Some guitar pickups will give you bad balance with bass spaced strings. Obviously not a problem with blade type pickups, as long as they're wide enough.
And a lot of people don't like the look of 6 poles under 4 or 5 strings, even if the coverage matches up.

The original Fender Bronco bass had a Strat pickup under a solid cover. A common upgrade to them is a dual blade single coil sized humbucker guitar pickup.

Actually 22 pole pieces
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So, I played a the Johnny Christ signature recently and it sounds pretty cool with both pickups on full blast. Anyway, it got me thinking, how come you don't see more basses with guitar pickups in them? Has anybody tried it? If so, what kind of pickup did you use, how did you wire it up, ect.

Is that actually a guitar humbucker in the neck or is it an EMG-HB bass pickup? The HB Bass pickup is actually an EMG P format in a HB housing.

 

[AndyPanda]

I put a dual rail strat shaped humbucker as bridge pickup on a P-J and it sounds great. The bass had an empty pickup route for a non-split P in bridge position - and the strat pickup fit right in (I was just testing to see if I should order a J style rail pickup and route for it. But I like the sound of this so much I kept it). The pickup had a bit too much radius to it so I filed the rails a bit flatter --- and they are just barely wide enough to catch all four strings.

 

[jaybones]

I know the Fender Bronco bass uses strat style single coils. Not sure if that's a good thing, as they're usually pretty bad...

 

[PWRL]

The Fender Cabronita I used to have came with a Fidelitron guitar pickup in it. I swapped it out for the bass pickup for the added depth, but originally it had a very bright tone. The Fidelitron guitar bridge pickup drops right in, for those who are curious. I probably should have left it alone but it wasn't what I was after.

 

[hintz]

I think the bill Lawrence humbuckers were for guitar or bass?? At least they sound good in mine

clean and loud!!

 

[Antisyzygy]

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So, I played a the Johnny Christ signature recently and it sounds pretty cool with both pickups on full blast. Anyway, it got me thinking, how come you don't see more basses with guitar pickups in them? Has anybody tried it? If so, what kind of pickup did you use, how did you wire it up, ect.

Guitar pickups and bass pickups are made pretty much exactly the same way with a few differences, like pole piece placement. Most guitar pickups would work just fine in a bass. The problem would be aligning the pole pieces to get a consistent volume and attack across all your strings. Guitar pickups may also not span the entire string width, so for example, maybe your 5th string on a 5 string bass doesn't fall over the pickup.

The Squier Bronco bass actually has a Mustang or Stratocaster pickup for it's stock pickup, and that pickup has 6 pole pieces that don't exactly align under the bass strings. It's pretty common to put Lace Sensors, Lipstick Pickups, and Seymour Duncan rails (all guitar pickups) in Bronco basses since it's a drop in pickup replacement, and it fixes the pole piece alignment problem that bass has. A rail doesn't have separate pole pieces, the rail is one long singular one without gaps essentially so the problem is solved.

For some other examples :

• Birdsong uses some guitar pickups in their basses. They look like Lace Sensor Reds and the big humbucker (Hemi?) they make with them.

• Carvin used to use guitar pickups in their basses. I used to own one that had stacked humbuckers in it. These humbuckers were also used on their guitars. It was an 80s thing I believe.
• Danelectro did it, their lipsticks are all the same basicaly
• Fender did it with their Rascal bass

For what I did with guitar pickups in basses --- I put a Lipstick humbucker meant for a 6-string guitar in my Bronco bass (now owned by another TBer). I had to order a new pickguard, but it worked very well. I wired it to a series/parallel/split switch and it sounded really good even in single coil mode. I hooked that pickup and switch up to a harness from a guy on Ebay. The harness had a treble-bleed volume and a varitone. It was a heck of a versatile bass after that, the treble bleed even was useful to dial in the tone.

There was plenty of low-end from those lipstick pickups, which are reputed to be very twangy and glassy sounding on guitars. I actually preferred single-coil to series on that bass because it had the most wide open sound to my ear. Series mode was really boomy--maybe good for deeper bass lines but not a sound I'd use general-purpose.

Long story short, the low-end comes from your strings and scale length, not the pickup as much.

 

[hintz]

Actually 22 pole pieces
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I had a old carvin bass with that same pickup, creme colored as well!! It was also the absolute heaviest bass I ever owned, it would hurt after 20 mins of playing so I sold it pretty quickly! It sounded great though

 

[Captain Chaos]

Man...I want a bronco now...with a Super Distortion!!!

 

[NallaBlack]

This turned out well. I wasn't expecting this kind of turn out. lol