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Hammersmith K4 - TalkBass Special Model

What finish should the TalkBASS special model be? (select two)


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Heh. I have to prod, beg and plead with people who promise me videos to post them, and here is Mitch offering them up for a bass he doesn't even own. You rock dude :)
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:banghead: I haven't done a gig that was recorded with any good quality yet. As a mostly fill-in guy I don't control that stuff. Sorry, man. I'll get you one someday.

I will say that balance, even on this P bass inspired version, is fantastic. @MarkoYYZ told me it probably has something to do with bridge placement and bringing the neck in a little. Whatever it is, it works. It's a 35" scale and 19mm spacing. So it works for my huge hands. But I can imagine this wouldn't be an uncomfortable bass for "normal" hands either.

Weight? Fantastic.
Neck? Almost sexy it's so comfy.
Tone wise it's a passive Swiss Army knife, but I kind of designed it that way. :D

Short version: The honeymoon isn't over for me and this bass. :thumbsup:
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:banghead: I haven't done a gig that was recorded with any good quality yet. As a mostly fill-in guy I don't control that stuff. Sorry, man. I'll get you one someday.

I will say that balance, even on this P bass inspired version, is fantastic. @MarkoYYZ told me it probably has something to do with bridge placement and bringing the neck in a little. Whatever it is, it works. It's a 35" scale and 19mm spacing. So it works for my huge hands. But I can imagine this wouldn't be an uncomfortable bass for "normal" hands either.

Weight? Fantastic.
Neck? Almost sexy it's so comfy.
Tone wise it's a passive Swiss Army knife, but I kind of designed it that way. :D

Short version: The honeymoon isn't over for me and this bass. :thumbsup:
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What did you end up with for electronics, switching, etc?
 
What did you end up with for electronics, switching, etc?

All passive
Nordstrand P pickup
Seymour Duncan NYC5 at the bridge
Master volume
Master tone
3 way selector mini switch for neck/both/bridge
3 way selector for series/single/parallel on the bridge pickup


Nails a P bass with a tad more girth.

Three solid PJ tones using both.

I got an MXR M81 to use as a stomp box to beef up the bridge pickup when solo. In series with the stomp box engaged it doesn't perfectly nail a Ray, but it's close enough for rock n roll. :cool:
 
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We have two of the 30" with Jesse Keeler and one other neck here in the shop, otherwise any of the black, white and surf green protos that you may have seen pics or vids of are all 33.25".

Music China is this coming weekend. I'm not traveling overseas - partly because I can't afford the time away but also because I don't think my back can handle the 15hr flights. In any case, the OEM has said they'll have a firm update after the show. *fingers crossed*
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Did you receive your firm update?
 
Did you receive your firm update?
Agreed compromise date (partial order) is that goods will air ship first week of Dec - which means Christmas bass deliveries.


Agreed. This has morphed into a pass around bass thread. K4!
Understood. lol.

I have been somewhat protective of the prototypes, which is why you haven't seen or head much of them since spring. Two are with Jesse Keeler (much of the recent DFA album was recorded with it, though I haven't been given any specific tracks, not helpful tone-wise due to their unique sound). One is with Remco (the black one, admittedly also not very helpful tone wise because of his unique sound) and we have two here. One I will post an update on over the weekend (White color, one pickup vs two pickup info) while I've decided to let the other one make its way around a little - the single pickup surf green one, which is now sporting a worn in set of flatwounds (45-105 Chromes).

The surf green K is arriving in LA today, to be used on a few tour dates by Svetlana Nagaeva - aka Zombierella of Messer Chups. I'm hoping to get some decent pics and or audio clips from the 6 or 7 dates, then I get the bass back on Nov 3 just prior to Bass Player Live, as I'll be in the LA area for the 4 days surrounding the weekend event. Not sure if I'll get it into any hands that weekend as we're int *in* the show, but it will then be loaned to a very well known LA player for a week or two, though I'm unsure this will result in any video samples as it's more of a pickup tryout ahead of a custom build they will be getting. Then it comes back to Toronto to be painted pink and sent out again with someone else, also in the hopes it will be used on some live dates that can generate some audio.

The Messer Chups show dates are as follows:

Wed Oct 25 - San Diego @ The Casbah *may not have bass, it's arriving today*
Thur Oct 26 - Long Beach @ Alex's Bar
Fri Oct 27 - Las Vegas @ Double Down
Sat Oct 28 - San Francisco @ Elbo Room

I know these cities overlap with a few of you, so it might be cool to check out the show, if you're not otherwise busy.
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Do you know what will be included in the partial order?
K stuff, ahead of any other materials also ordered. Priority to White, Black, Burst and Surf. Two main neck types and punt the others to the follow-up shipment. If they're not included, we'll probably just paint the Rootbeer and TB Blue ones here and cancel those colors from the stock batch, unsure on that (could probably sell them anyways but limiting colors could help timelines in the bigger picture). I'm tempted to tell them to just do all headstocks black also, but I know some of you guys wanted the matched type.

The bridges are still overseas also, but can ship any time I ask. We do other metal work and chroming with the same factory, so I was content to let them piggy back with other items also in the works. Getting things chromed or powder coated in China is a major pain nowadays, with pollution controls in place that cause rolling shutdowns. Small batches like this get squeezed in when they can and we're waiting on a batch of control plates at moment, plus some tuner prototypes.
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K stuff, ahead of any other materials also ordered. Priority to White, Black, Burst and Surf. Two main neck types and punt the others to the follow-up shipment. If they're not included, we'll probably just paint the Rootbeer and TB Blue ones here and cancel those colors from the stock batch, unsure on that (could probably sell them anyways but limiting colors could help timelines in the bigger picture). I'm tempted to tell them to just do all headstocks black also, but I know some of you guys wanted the matched type.

The bridges are still overseas also, but can ship any time I ask. We do other metal work and chroming with the same factory, so I was content to let them piggy back with other items also in the works. Getting things chromed or powder coated in China is a major pain nowadays, with pollution controls in place that cause rolling shutdowns. Small batches like this get squeezed in when they can and we're waiting on a batch of control plates at moment, plus some tuner prototypes.
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cool. I was afraid you were going to say you were only getting black ones or something.

I wouldn't hate a black headstock, but I will wear my matching green headstock as a badge of honor to symbolize all the waiting I've been doing.
 
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Agreed compromise date (partial order) is that goods will air ship first week of Dec - which means Christmas bass deliveries.



Understood. lol.

I have been somewhat protective of the prototypes, which is why you haven't seen or head much of them since spring. Two are with Jesse Keeler (much of the recent DFA album was recorded with it, though I haven't been given any specific tracks, not helpful tone-wise due to their unique sound). One is with Remco (the black one, admittedly also not very helpful tone wise because of his unique sound) and we have two here. One I will post an update on over the weekend (White color, one pickup vs two pickup info) while I've decided to let the other one make its way around a little - the single pickup surf green one, which is now sporting a worn in set of flatwounds (45-105 Chromes).

The surf green K is arriving in LA today, to be used on a few tour dates by Svetlana Nagaeva - aka Zombierella of Messer Chups. I'm hoping to get some decent pics and or audio clips from the 6 or 7 dates, then I get the bass back on Nov 3 just prior to Bass Player Live, as I'll be in the LA area for the 4 days surrounding the weekend event. Not sure if I'll get it into any hands that weekend as we're int *in* the show, but it will then be loaned to a very well known LA player for a week or two, though I'm unsure this will result in any video samples as it's more of a pickup tryout ahead of a custom build they will be getting. Then it comes back to Toronto to be painted pink and sent out again with someone else, also in the hopes it will be used on some live dates that can generate some audio.

The Messer Chups show dates are as follows:

Wed Oct 25 - San Diego @ The Casbah *may not have bass, it's arriving today*
Thur Oct 26 - Long Beach @ Alex's Bar
Fri Oct 27 - Las Vegas @ Double Down
Sat Oct 28 - San Francisco @ Elbo Room

I know these cities overlap with a few of you, so it might be cool to check out the show, if you're not otherwise busy.
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Well, that TOTALLY sucks, as I'm playing a show this Friday!!!


Also, the Double Down is the diviest of dives, and I can totally see that surf green K being played by a surf punk band in there.

In further edit and realization...that show doesn't start until 10pm. I should be wrapping mine up around then. I think I can make it! I'm going to be name dropping like a boss. "So, Ms. Zombierella, I'm friends with Marko. We go way back. We're almost blood brothers. I'm getting my own custom K bass, too."
 
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Yeah, I looked at the Double Down when we were scouting venues for our Roadshow events. Definitely on the divey/punk/alt side of the spectrum and yes, it's the perfect venue for a surf/horror/psychobilly sort of band like this. It's a 3pc with with a not overly complex sound, so it would be a great opportunity to hear the K in a live mix. She's quite photogenic, so take lots of pictures for the other fellas in here ;)
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Talked to her today, she said a very creepy guy kept asking her to pose for pictures... geez dude, don't kill this for me!


Just kidding. She said you were very friendly. She also filled me on on the pickup being a little too hot through the rig they have for her. They're going to try lowering the pickup a bit and see if it gets them close. We actually talked about some Dano style lipsticks for her, but this bass is just a loaner to see how it feels and what scale is going to be best.

How was the show in general @wintremute - any fun?
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OK, so passaround bass has not yet reached jumbodbassman, in case anyone was wondering why there wasn't any posts on that. It's waiting at the post office for pickup, which he'll be able to get done on the weekend, at which point he's hopefully able to share some feedback. Meyatch is buy it, so once it's done it CT it goes back to Meyatch to stay. (yay)

And for some added K info... I have planned to make a better post on the weekend, but it turns out the whole gallery of pictures I wanted to use was on a phone that is presently smashed ans awaiting repair so I can pull the data off. In the meantime, here is one of the pics that I pulled from a FB message.

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What you see here is an under-the-hood shot with the pickguard removed. You can see how for the neck pickup, it has to span over the extended portion of the neck and cannot be routed, since it's a bolt on. The Alumitone is the ONLY pickup that will work, and we have to have them made with the primary turned to the outside (as per humbucker shown in pic), rather than the usual way of having it turned under the pickup for mounting into the usual cavity. I think a lot of the time, this will be a single pickup bass, and if there is a second pickup, it's more likely to be at the bridge rather than the neck. Also, what is becoming clear is that we're going to build all the Alumitone K basses with a single-parallel-series switch for the humbucker. It's very hot and for a lot of players and styles, the other two settings will be necessary. I'm not yet sure what we'll do on the two pickup bass. It was going to be single-parallel-series between the twp pickups, but I think a better bet will be to have the pickups in series or parallel (both at same time) and then use either two volumes or volume-blend. This will be an option determined by each buyer prior to their build, with proper sound clips to help.

The rest of the pics show the transition from a 1 pickup bass to two pickups. I hope to have those pics back ASAP to share them.

I leave in the morning for LA to attend Bass Player Live. I'll be meeting with Svetlana tomorrow night to get the Surf Green K back and discuss the details of her final build, though I already have a 51P pickup from Nordstrand that I think will be the ticket, if not a pair of Dano style lipsticks. The other player I'd rather not name, but he's eager for a K and a pickup test will be key. Who kows who else gets their hands on it, but will share anything worthwhile here.
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looking at the picture i has question. will the bridge pickup on the 2 pup model be moved closer to the bridge?? also will a less deep pickup like a tbird pup help out at the neck position. I have 2 tbird pups i can send for my bass if you are willing to try it out. also noticed 20 frets??