Has anyone around here tried the New Standard Tuning ?

[ajkula66]

I'm a huge fan of Mr. Fripp and am considering dedicating one of my electrics to toy around with his NST.

Anyone tried it ? If so, what were your impressions ? Did you stick with it or dumped it ?

 

[Jeff Scott]

I'm a huge fan of Mr. Fripp and am considering dedicating one of my electrics to toy around with his NST.

Anyone tried it ? If so, what were your impressions ? Did you stick with it or dumped it ?

Would his NST happen to be tuned in fifths? Many years ago when I first saw the California Guitar Trio they talked about going to Robert's music camps and learned about fifth's tuning from him.

 

[ajkula66]

Would his NST happen to be tuned in fifths? Many years ago when I first saw the California Guitar Trio they talked about going to Robert's music camps and learned about fifth's tuning from him.

Well kind of...bass to treble: C-G-D-A-E-G

New standard tuning - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[J Wilson]

I've got my hands full with B E A D G. My intellectual curiosity appreciates alternate tunings, but my brain can't wrap its gray matter around them.

 

[Gopherbassist]

 

[Jeff Scott]

Well kind of...bass to treble: C-G-D-A-E-G

New standard tuning - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Jeff Scott]

I've got my hands full with B E A D G. My intellectual curiosity appreciates alternate tunings, but my brain can't wrap its gray matter around them.

I keep the two Yamamotos in DADGAD.

 

[Mr_BK]

I've got my hands full with B E A D G. My intellectual curiosity appreciates alternate tunings, but my brain can't wrap its gray matter around them.

+1000

 

[Stewie]

Yikes! I'm way too old to consider doing that. My fingers hurt just thinking about it

 

[GrayGoesBlack]

I've tried fifths tuning for a while, but I couldn't get used to it. Although it was nice for melodies and experimenting, I just couldn't get the hang of it, probably partially because of muscle memory and not putting in enough time.
Now I have one guitar (Bass VI actually) tuned in perfect fourths (so E-A-D-G-C-F) and that clicked almost instantly. You lose the 5 and 6 string chords shapes (barre and open chords basically), but if you are more into shell voicings, jazz and especially approaching chords and scales coming from bass, it makes a lot more sense.

 

[Brandon Shea]

I think I'm too stuck in my ways on bass to try a new tuning, but I might try this on an extra guitar to see what it's like. I used to play cello when I was a kid, so tuning in fifths definitely makes sense and I can understand how it'd be useful.

 

[Iristone]

I wonder how to do it on bass? Maybe CGDA at an octave lower than a cello. In China the daruan is tuned CGDA (by design) or DADA (traditional) in the same octave as a cello, and the NST reminds me of it.

 

[savid]

I wonder how to do it on bass? Maybe CGDA at an octave lower than a cello. In China the daruan is tuned CGDA (by design) or DADA (traditional) in the same octave as a cello, and the NST reminds me of it.

I tune my fretless 5 to CGDAE; singles of ghs precision flats

 

[groovaholic]

I use SIT strings and buy singles to assemble even-tension sets.
An even-tension set of SIT strings for CGDA tuning would be 135-90-60-40
Basically, there's a consistent 3:2 ratio of string diameters as you go up the strings.

It's tempting to order singles and try it on one of my basses.
Each of the strings listed above would be right around 40-42 lbs tension, which matches my current strings.
I wouldn't even need to adjust my truss rod.

But aside from noodling at home, I have no idea where I would use this - and it seems likely to confuse me.

 

[wmdj5]

I've got my hands full with B E A D G. My intellectual curiosity appreciates alternate tunings, but my brain can't wrap its gray matter around them.

Yeah, I'll try alternate tunings when I master the standard one.
I should be ready in about 50 years!

 

[RonC72]

My good friend Barend Tromp ("Les Fret" on this forum) uses a lot of different tunings on his basses (and guitars too). I'm sure he uses Fripp tunings aswell cause he's quite into Fripp's work. Check out his YT channel, there are quite some video's with weird tunings: Barend Tromp YouTube

 

[MCS4]

Now I have one guitar (Bass VI actually) tuned in perfect fourths (so E-A-D-G-C-F) and that clicked almost instantly. You lose the 5 and 6 string chords shapes (barre and open chords basically), but if you are more into shell voicings, jazz and especially approaching chords and scales coming from bass, it makes a lot more sense.

I sometimes keep a guitar in all-fourths tuning as well. Part of this might be bassist-brain as you mention, but to me it feels like a superior tuning for anyone who doesn't need to play a lot of barre and open chords (although with some practice you can still cover some of that). Since I do fall in that category I considered switching over entirely, and the only reason I haven't done so yet is because I've been playing a lot of slide lately and all-fourths is a bit of a buzzkill for a lot of slide stuff (although still amazing great for single-note stuff).

 

[iiipopes]

Well kind of...bass to treble: C-G-D-A-E-G

New standard tuning - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"New Standard" (fifths) tuning is nothing more than cello tuning down an octave, with two added strings, and with the top string being a minor third instead of a successive additional fifth, which would be B. There is nothing "new" about the tuning. Thomastik-Infeld has made fifths tuning sets for double bass for decades, albeit only the bottom four strings, again, an octave lower than a cello. What I do instead is to maintain standard tuning on the EADG strings, and add a B string tuned up to C to get a little better tension and stability, as well as less fret stretch for my fretting hand. This last point: stretch of the fretting hand (called stopping on a double bass) is the reason that about five hundred years ago when the double bass was developed that instead of the fifths tuning for the rest of the orchestral strings (CGDA for cello, tenor octave CGDA for viola, treble GDAE for violin) that the bass tuning developed as fourths, EADG, instead of fifths. And we are not even going to go there about three-string double basses, which had a variety of tunings, including hybrid fifth-fourth GDG or the top three conventional pitches of ADG, as well as other tunings, especially when the instrument was a hybrid cello & bass for church "orchestras.". But if you must, here is a good video to demonstrate:

Link:

 

[mambo4]

I find Jacob Collier's DAEAD guitar tuning is more interesting than stacked 5ths
Makes inversions quite simple

 

[gln1955]

I play mandolin every once in a while and when I do I have to totally shift gears in my brain. It hurts.