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Have I been cheated? (Amp purchase)

Dear fellows, not sure if it is the proper section, but I need some light in a matter.
I paid for a Phil Jones Cub Pro 460€ shipping included to a guy in Germany (I'm in Spain). Some things made me suspect last minute before paying, like an uncommon email with lots of numbers. I had to argue a bit to make him send a real picture of the amp with him holding it or something, and he eventually sent a pic of the amp with my name written on the box. I paid and in a matter of minutes I got the tracking number. So early??? I suspected because the company is from Canada and it does big cargo shippings and so on. Weird, why hiring such thing for a small box? The info was that on the picture. Pickup date is tomorrow, which might make sense but the tracking number said the package was already halfway. Trackings are not always accurate... but I was already wondering when would be the surprise. The surprise came today in an email where says the following:

"I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to inform you that your shipment has been temporarily held due to an outstanding insurance fee. The insurance fee is 97% refundable upon delivery.

In accordance with our shipping policies, all packages must be insured to ensure their safe and secure delivery. The fee for this insurance is €157.99.

Please be advised that the fee is fully refundable upon delivery, so long as the shipment is received in good condition. At the delivery point, you will receive a 97% refund of the insurance fee paid"

Now the alarms are on and I feel I've been clearly cheated. I wrote the guy and he pretends to be surprised. After arguing he said he would pay the 160€. I still have to believe it.

Does it sound to you as weird as it does to me?

I've sold and bought so many things and I am a believer that among colleagues there must be trust to each other. It's a pity that things like that happen.
I'll inform you if eventually everything is in my mind and there's a happy ending. But by now I assume I've given away 460 bucks.

Thanks a lot in advance!!!
 

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Dear fellows, not sure if it is the proper section, but I need some light in a matter.
I paid for a Phil Jones Cub Pro 460€ shipping included to a guy in Germany (I'm in Spain). Some things made me suspect last minute before paying, like an uncommon email with lots of numbers. I had to argue a bit to make him send a real picture of the amp with him holding it or something, and he eventually sent a pic of the amp with my name written on the box. I paid and in a matter of minutes I got the tracking number. So early??? I suspected because the company is from Canada and it does big cargo shippings and so on. Weird, why hiring such thing for a small box? The info was that on the picture. Pickup date is tomorrow, which might make sense but the tracking number said the package was already halfway. Trackings are not always accurate... but I was already wondering when would be the surprise. The surprise came today in an email where says the following:

"I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to inform you that your shipment has been temporarily held due to an outstanding insurance fee. The insurance fee is 97% refundable upon delivery.

In accordance with our shipping policies, all packages must be insured to ensure their safe and secure delivery. The fee for this insurance is €157.99.

Please be advised that the fee is fully refundable upon delivery, so long as the shipment is received in good condition. At the delivery point, you will receive a 97% refund of the insurance fee paid"

Now the alarms are on and I feel I've been clearly cheated. I wrote the guy and he pretends to be surprised. After arguing he said he would pay the 160€. I still have to believe it.

Does it sound to you as weird as it does to me?

I've sold and bought so many things and I am a believer that among colleagues there must be trust to each other. It's a pity that things like that happen.
I'll inform you if eventually everything is in my mind and there's a happy ending. But by now I assume I've given away 460 bucks.

Thanks a lot in advance!!!


Did you pay by Paypal?
 
Typically, sender is responsible for insurance. Still, if the sender is paying the fee, they might be the ones getting scammed. But they can also contact their shipping company and find out if the fee is legit.
 
Quick - contact Paypal and explained you are being scammed. They sometimes can cancel the payment if it's not too late.

Paypal has messages that pop up saying only to use F&F if you know the person, and NEVER for buying goods from people. You can’t skirt Paypal’s transaction fees and then expect their help.

@martisanma - buying online from a stranger, especially in another country (and quite possibly not even the country you think they’re in!) is extremely risky and if they ask you to use Paypal F&F, or some other payment service not designed for purchase transactions, and that do not offer any buyer protection, then this should be an obvious scam. At best, you’ll get mailed a brick so they have a real tracking number - but there’s also fake shipping company scams. There’s also scams that use Paypal G&S that the seller sends a plastic trinket to another address in your town, so the tracking looks like it is coming to you but never arrives, even after it is marked delivered by legit shipping company. In that case, Paypal will often side will seller who has shipment delivery confirmation. Lots of scams out there - but the most basic one is asking for Paypal F&F. Once you sent that money, it was gone. I only use F&F if I know the person. Sorry you got scammed.
 
Paypal has messages that pop up saying only to use F&F if you know the person, and NEVER for buying goods from people. You can’t skirt Paypal’s transaction fees and then expect their help.

If you're a long time Paypal customer contact them and tell them the story. They understand people can get scammed and they might help.
I've told others the same thing and Paypal, scolded them, but then help them out - once. Paypal is a great company.
 
Quick - contact Paypal and explained you are being scammed. They sometimes can cancel the payment if it's not too late.
I don't think Paypal is going to go too far out on a limb for him since he was aiding the seller circumvent Paypal fees. His only saving grace would be to take it up with his credit card co. He's screwed if he paid it all with his PayPal balance or bank account funds.
 
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If you're a long time Paypal customer contact them and tell them the story. They understand people can get scammed and they might help.
I've told others the same thing and Paypal, scolded them, but then help them out - once. Paypal is a great company.

I mean, he can try and see. I just wouldn’t expect them to help. They put warnings on their site to only use F&F if you know the person. The fees on that transaction would have been all of $15 or so, and then his money would have had a layer of buyer protection.
 

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