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Have you seen these yet? OMG!!!

Arbitrarily speaking now, which one really gets you going, the blondie or the redhead with the brunette roots? (Tee heet) :smug: Can I sleep over sometime?

Ouch! Tough to say. I love them both for such different reasons. The Ritter has more midrange cutting through, but the Drozd has more thunder in its belly (bass and treble) and can be more aggressive in certain situations. The Ritter's neck is a lot more comfortable to me though.

For what its worth my drummer likes the Ritter more (because it cuts through more). Personally, I've seemed to have find my own "voice" in the Ritter, but there are situations where the Drozd sounds better.

Really tough call, I love having the both of them! :D
 
I called T Rowe price today about making a loan from my 401K. I got scared and passed out. What the he#@ am I thinking? My wife would KILL me if she found out what I have been thinking.

chuck (scared)
Considering what could ultimately happen to the stock market and other derivatives, it might be a shrewder move than it appears to be, but don't let me encourage you. I know one fellow reported getting a used (kind of plain if you can imagine that) Ritter for around $2K, so you should keep your eyes open for that kind of thing. Ritter makes relatively plain ones now and again. They just don't remain available very long. It's going to sound like a Ritter anyway although they all have somewhat different personalities.

On the other hand, that low used price was a long time ago. The Euros to dollars equation is changing and it definitely makes these seem like a questionable investment right now. Will it swing the other way? No way to know really. In any case I think anyone holding a Ritter that got it a few years ago is holding an investment that is appreciating faster than most derivatives, particularly in the long term. IMO, there are only 2 or three sound investments right now. A Ritter might be one of them. But don't let me encourage you. ;)
 
I think you are demonstrating that we are all different! One man's eight grand is anothers $800.

Why does Jens Ritter build his basses? One of the reasons is because there is a strong demand for them and apart from the cost of the materials (some of those billets are not cheap) that is why he can sell his basses at the prices he does. For a lot of folks too, play one and you understand. Not everone's taste but I haven't heard any complaints from Ritter owners.
 
I think you are demonstrating that we are all different! One man's eight grand is anothers $800.

Why does Jens Ritter build his basses? One of the reasons is because there is a strong demand for them and apart from the cost of the materials (some of those billets are not cheap) that is why he can sell his basses at the prices he does. For a lot of folks too, play one and you understand. Not everone's taste but I haven't heard any complaints from Ritter owners.

I can see a difference between a $500, $1000, and $2000 bass. Ive never tried a $4000 bass, but even for arguements sake lets say its marginally better than a $2000 bass.

But a $8000+ bass???? Thats just insane. The only point in that is to try and impress yourself or somebody else with how much you spent. Which for some people is a big factor!

Its the same with plenty of other things too, thats why we have Rolls Royces. Thats exactly why they are in business. The same must apply to guitars too.
 
Well, I called Simmons Bass guitars and talked with the builder/owner Mr. Simmons. I can buy an Echo for a LOT less and I really love the body style a lot. I don't know how well they are made or sound, but he (Simmons) offers a ten day trial with a no questions asked return policy. I am gonna give it a shot because its the closest thing to the shape I want (strange taste to some, I'm sure) and if sounds as good as it looks, it should be perfect for me. Do you folks know anything about them? I am unfamiliar with the Bartolini pickups. Do they sound good in other basses?

Thanks
Chuck


Hi Chuck.

You may also want to check out the Dean Bromberg B2 signature bass which is available in both 4 and 5 string versions. This is a Korean guitar but don't let that fool you. This is a serious instrument! It shares many of the body characteristics of the Simmons models including radically extended upper horn and more cutaway on the lower bout than you'll know what to do with.They were retailing at between $750 & $850 depending on the number of strings but you'll need to check availability. I believe they come up used from time to time on eBay at very good prices.

The American version (which to my knowledge was never launched) was intended to have Bartolini J pickups and I've replaced my originals with these. It is also neck thru with 18V electronics. This is one of my favourite basses and I'll never part with it.

For the record, it has also been given very positive reviews in both Bass Player Magazine and Bass Guitar magazine so its well worth checking out.

Good luck;)
 
I can see a difference between a $500, $1000, and $2000 bass. Ive never tried a $4000 bass, but even for arguements sake lets say its marginally better than a $2000 bass.

But a $8000+ bass???? Thats just insane.

Please dont hold me to this, as I've never asked, but I believe some of the costs for some of these Conklin bass are upwards for $10k plus. The green 7 string in this link I believe cost $20,100.
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Its Denson Angulo's fretless 7 string..

Some of these basses are just nutty.
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Its the same with plenty of other things too, thats why we have Rolls Royces. Thats exactly why they are in business. The same must apply to guitars too.

Exactly my point. Although I wouldn't knock anyone with a Rolls Royce - good for them! Rolls Royce is a good example of a high quality, mostly hand-made low volume item, just like many guitars out there.

You should head down to West 48th Steet and try out some expensive/rare guitars after that you might have a different view and then again maybe not; each to their own!
 
Silversorcerer said:
IMO, there are only 2 or three sound investments right now. A Ritter might be one of them. But don't let me encourage you. ;)

Only problem I have with a Ritter as an investment is selling it! :D

Then again it might be easier if I had a few. Thanks for justifying another Ritter! Let's hope the wife feels the same way!:D
 
Exactly my point. Although I wouldn't knock anyone with a Rolls Royce - good for them! Rolls Royce is a good example of a high quality, mostly hand-made low volume item, just like many guitars out there.

You should head down to West 48th Steet and try out some expensive/rare guitars after that you might have a different view and then again maybe not; each to their own!

Hey by all means, if you got the bucks and you want it, go for it! Rolls Royce might have been a bad example, nice looking solid car, but not the most reliable thing in the world, my dad used to have one. If he played the bass he would have had the $10,000+ bass!

Whats the name of the place on 48th? I may have to stop in there next time Im in the city.
 
Rudy's and there another great shop across the Rd, up from Sam Ash, whose name escapes me, but I played my first Ritter there!

I actually think the RR is a good analogy! Ritter's have nothing on a good concert violin or bass!
 
Rudy's and there another great shop across the Rd, up from Sam Ash, whose name escapes me, but I played my first Ritter there!

I actually think the RR is a good analogy! Ritter's have nothing on a good concert violin or bass!

Wow, I got to stop in this place. I looked at their website. They got anything from late '50s Fenders to brand spankin new 2008 basses. Prices range on the website from $700 to well over 10,000. I would go nuts looking around there.

Heres their website:
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I was lucky enough to get face to face with a Ritter in April 2007. I was on my way to catch a flight to Nuremburg out of Frankfurt and low and behold what was in a bullet proof display case in the Frankfurt Airport...Ahhh gold leaf everywhere on the fret board, incrediable wood, and a poly finish that would make Stuart Spector drool. I had my wife's engagement ring hidden in my passport carrier at the time...hock the ring.. briefly crossed my mind.
 
48th street is lame. they got a couple of nice basses in rudys but its not the holy mecca that its made out to be. its pretty much all sam ash now too.

ive played a couple of ritters and was pretty unimpressed. they sounded good but so do fenders and ibanezes. im not against $2000+ basses but ritters aren't worth it to me.
 
Well, its not a Ritter, but It is a Simmons. I placed an order for the Simmons Echo and I mailed the funds to the man Thursday, so my Echo should arrive this week. He is sending me the one from His website that has the black hardware and it will be a 4 stringer. I wish I would have never got back in a band...this is too much fun! I feel 15 again! (That was almost 30 years ago!!!)

Chuck