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Headrush 2000 watt 8"

#21
I have experience with the 12 inch. Works fine. Have not tried the smaller speakers but we actually use Headrush for our practice pa speakers. (Don’t laugh, works great)
We tried a 8 inch and it was considerably less than the 12 inch. We put them side by side and could easily tell a difference.
My guitar player was using the 12 inch Headrush with another metal band, as well as ours. He bought the 8 thinking it was easier to carry but he was not happy with the speaker and went back to the 12 inch.
 
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BassPlayer99 said:
I was using an Ampeg BA-210 combo but was getting tired of carrying that heavy thing around and everywhere we play we have a PA.
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If the Ampeg is working for you other than the lug around, get a folding handcart and roll that sucker.

It will be a few fingers roll across the parking lot.
Up a curb? No problem.
Up stairs? No problem.
Crack in the cement? No problem.
Speed bump in the parking lot? Up and over... no problem. Go slow.

The only time you will lift the amp is loading in and out of the car and some stages.

I use the Magna cart for my 2x12 using two fingers. Folds to almost nothing.
https://www.amazon.com/Magna-Personal-Capacity-Aluminum-Folding/dp/B000HVVSDU
 
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RichSnyder said:
Certainly and this monitor likely had some DSP "magic" to overcome limitations (within physical limitations). I really like the idea of powered, DSP'ed speakers. PA's mostly moved the amp into the speaker, I think it's just a matter of time before that happens with MI applications. Bass cabs first, because guitarists will be the holdouts.
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Powered bass cabs would be nice. Tech21 used to have such a thing since they assumed everyone had their tone on their pedalboard (I do a lot of the time also). Must have either not worked well or just not a good market for it.

my guess is a headrush-like device with enough oomph for bass would be significantly larger and heavier and thus not much advantage over other choices.
 
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I have a 108 and the 112 model. The 108 is way better than most people here seem to give it credit for, assuming you’re not looking for extremely low frequencies. It does not like having a Low B put through it at all. Anything below D and it starts going to mud. Plying a E or Eb four string through it’s just fine and it will keep up with most drummers. The 112 handles a five string much, much better and can overpower most drummers I’ve played with.
 
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Schulte said:
I have a 108 and the 112 model. The 108 is way better than most people here seem to give it credit for, assuming you’re not looking for extremely low frequencies. It does not like having a Low B put through it at all. Anything below D and it starts going to mud. Plying a E or Eb four string through it’s just fine and it will keep up with most drummers. The 112 handles a five string much, much better and can overpower most drummers I’ve played with.
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For metal?
 
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BassPlayer99 said:
I just bought the HR 8" 2000 watt monitor. I was using an Ampeg BA-210 combo but was getting tired of carrying that heavy thing around and everywhere we play we have a PA. Our guitarist has a HR 12" and loves it. I thought I was getting a 12" but made a mistake. Thinking about sending it back. I haven't rehearsed with it yet... just got it today.

We play metal... anyone using it at gigs for monitoring? Should I send it back? It's loud in my office, but it's not a stage. We also don't use in-ears. We have them, but always have a hard time dialing them in (we can't afford a rack mount to dial in our ears before a gig)

Thoughts? Think it'll be loud enough?
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Schulte said:
Sure, if that metals in Eb or E. I’ve played some Metallica and Megadeth stuff on mine at an open mic and it wasn’t bad. These things get way louder than a 1x8 or even an average 1x12 bass cab.
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The one that I tested ran out of steam pretty quickly, it would have to be awfully quiet metal or close to your ear.

I am very aware of the limitations of an 8" driver at low frequencies and higher volume. I designed one of the first commercially successful 8" high bass combos on the market with a high performance custom driver and I wouldn't recommend it for metal, even with a 4 string standard tuning unless it was easy listening lounge metal.

The physical limitations for bass are very real, for guitar there are no such limitations. That's why it's intended for guitar applications and works well for guitar.

I don't want to see the OP struggling with something that's not going to work very well for his particular needs.
 
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RichSnyder said:
Certainly and this monitor likely had some DSP "magic" to overcome limitations (within physical limitations). I really like the idea of powered, DSP'ed speakers. PA's mostly moved the amp into the speaker, I think it's just a matter of time before that happens with MI applications. Bass cabs first, because guitarists will be the holdouts.
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There's a whole world of guitar applications (modeling/profiling with cabinet IR's) that are opening up with these types of products. It's been tried in the bass world several times, there was nothing wrong with the products but it didn't bring enough to the table to justify the cost.
 
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If anyone is curious, here are the claimed specs from the FRFR 108 OM:
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With the given frequency response specs you might assume the cab can produce 62hz at 123dB. I assume these specs are a bit optimistic (I.E BS).

IMHO it's not likely that a 8" woofer in a $270 cab can handle 650W continuous and it also not likely that the woofer can produce 126dB continuous. Even if an 8" woofer can handle 650W in the mids and produce 126dB in the mids...it's not likely it will be able to sustain full power response down to 62hz at -3dB.

Most likely -3dB at 63hz is achieved by using EQ to boost the lows. While EQ can be used to extend how low the speaker plays, it does not increase how loud the speaker can play at 63hz.
 
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From what I know these are basically an Alto TS408 pa speaker. They claim very similar specs to the Headrush in a Behringer style way..... that is, very overblown to try and convince those that know nothing about speakers that they are really powerful.

I wouldn't trust two TS408's as FOH for an acoustic duo to produce decent full sound. I certainly wouldn't use one as a bass amp except for quiet practice or with a couple of acoustic guitars and a cajon...... and definitely not for metal with even the most restrained electric guitarist and drummer.
 
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Wasnex said:
View attachment 5104597 I assume these specs are a bit optimistic (I.E BS).
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What I REALLY like about these specs is that the thing is able to produce a continuous output of 1000W,
with a PSU that can take in up to 800W.

That PSU has an efficiency rating of at least 125%.

I need one of those for my perpetual motion machine.
 
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I have some experience with the 12" playing jams and a little less experience with the 8".

The 12 is surprisingly good. Of course all those numbers are pipe dreams, but the cabinet is an active 12" wedge that packs a punch for the money it costs.

The 8 is okay for guitar and music that is not metal. With more civilized genres of guitar music, it works fine, is light and very cheap.
 
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