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Heil PR 35---best all around mic ever?

#61
I did some swapping back and forth between the AE6100 and PR35 onstage last night and ended up using the Heil for the rest of the night. Really not a which-is-better thing so much as which you prefer, and I still like them both. Probably be a while before I make a solid decision as to which I'm going to be using on a regular basis.
 
#62
Wow, this thread has legs!

Ya, the reason I stayed with the 58 is because I have sloppy mic technique. I run up to the mic the second I start singing, I move my head around, etc. The Heil is for people with good mic technique. If they could make it a little more slop-friendly, I'd probably get one.
 
#63
JimmyM said:
Wow, this thread has legs!

Ya, the reason I stayed with the 58 is because I have sloppy mic technique. I run up to the mic the second I start singing, I move my head around, etc. The Heil is for people with good mic technique. If they could make it a little more slop-friendly, I'd probably get one.
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That's even more of a problem with the AE6100, and probably the only thing that I don't like about it. When I'm on it, it's great, but I let customers come up and sing with me on a regular basis and it's doesn't do too well with all the voices coming from various angles and distances.

One of my friends asked if he should replace his SM58 with one of the mics I have, and I told him that it was completely a personal choice and that price or actual frequency response wasn't as good a way of choosing as using his own ears was, and then as you pointed out, what you're used to matters a LOT! It was actually throwing me off a bit at first because it's been years since I sang much into a mic with a flat front, but it sure puts out a very transparent/condenser type of response.

I actually run around the room a lot too sometimes, but always thought it was kind of cool when you hear the singers voice just a little through the air, then it suddenly gets louder as he finds the mic!

Now that my favorite Sennheiser 845's have been relegated to backup status, they may soon be joined by the AE6100 too.
 
#67
fokof said:
One of the advantage of the KM105 is his supercardioid patern wich doesn't pickup everything else on stage. You probably tried a KM104 , wich is cardioid.
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I sold my KMS-105 to buy a Shure KSM9, and I have no regrets. The KSM9 has a switch to go from supercardioid to cardioid. I found the KSM-105 to have a propensity for feedback at very high frequencies. While MAP on both mics is about the same, NSL sells the Shure at an astoundingly low price (you have to call on the phone to get the price). It's the best sounding vocal mic in my bag. For comparison's sake, I have and use Beta 87Cs, Beta 58As, Beta 57As, SM-58s, SM-57s, Super 55, Rode NT-1, NT-1A, NT-3, NT-4, NT-5, and AKG C4000 B. Not to mention my Audix and Shure drum mics. Right now I'm using all Beta 58s in my trio. They work very well for us.

BTW, the Rode mics are excellent and are some of the best mic values out there.
 
#68
Just ordered a PL84 for $39.99 - condenser. They were selling for $130'ish but MF has a closeout. Gotta give it a whirl at that price!!

Tried most things and understand the stolid underpinnings of a band with SM58s but we use Senn E865s and EV 767a when feedback is a concern.
 
#70
tubster said:
Just ordered a PL84 for $39.99 - condenser. They were selling for $130'ish but MF has a closeout. Gotta give it a whirl at that price!!

Tried most things and understand the stolid underpinnings of a band with SM58s but we use Senn E865s and EV 767a when feedback is a concern.
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Personally I've found the 767's to be more prone to feedback than 58's. Maybe it's the systems I've used them with.
 
#71
I've been using the PR-35 exclusively for a while now and am very happy with it, but also have something else on my horizon, which I should soon have.

Last month I got the chance to do some sound booth comparison with the Sennheiser 845 (because I have three of them), Sennheiser 945, Audio Technica AE-6100 (again, I have two of them), the Heil PR-35, Shure Beta 58 and while being very hard to pick an absolute favorite, it did re-confirm my liking for the PR-35 and let me know that I very definitely need to pick up a 945 - it's not even in the same universe as the 845!

Lots of love for other mics here in this thread, but anyone having trouble finding their ultimate stage mic should definitely check out the Heil PR-35 and Sennheiser 945.
 
#72
Just thought I'd pop in on this thread and add in that I've been using the telefunken m80 mics quite a bit lately,
Great rejection and very articulate high end, almost condenser like but smooth. Also much less barrel noise than the beyers Ive used in he past. Reading back I see the love for the ksm9, I'll second that if money isn't an issue, got to mix Wynnona Judd with a 21 piece orchestra using a ksm9 capsule in a wireless and it was effortless.
 
#76
True. Not all that concerned about it, though. I have only my vocal mic in my monitor and while I hear a little pickup from it, it's not bad. We're not exactly a band that goes for blistering volume ;)
 
#79
Say what you will about the 57 and 58, but the fact is that they are all over not only pro stages but pro studios as well. If they truly sucked, nobody would use them for anything, especially in studios.
 
#80
You don't see anyone saying they sucked, but I'm a lot closer to subscribing to your initial assessment of the PR35.

You guys seem to think that I've never had either of those standards but I suspect you're just a little set in your ways and have a hard time accepting that there's many products out there that have set the standard a bit higher.

I've got no problem with inexpensive solutions, but I find the PR35 to be a much more satisfying mic to sing into for 5 hours, but that's my choice and you're welcome to yours.
 

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