On the other hand he just got a Whammy pedal so he might not mind the digitalness of a POG, if it were me if I was the by a 6th octave pedal
I'd get the Foxrox Octron.
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On the other hand he just got a Whammy pedal so he might not mind the digitalness of a POG, if it were me if I was the by a 6th octave pedal
I'd get the Foxrox Octron.
6th??? The Whammy will be my first dedicated octave pedal. Who knows? Maybe it'll be good enough for everything I do. But I was counting on it sounding synthy with the bass so I figured I might like something cleaner. Wish there were bass clips with the Octron. Sounds great but not especially clean.On the other hand he just got a Whammy pedal so he might not mind the digitalness of a POG, if it were me if I was the by a 6th octave pedal
Well yeah, I have 5 of em: MXR M88, DOD FX35, Dano Chili dog, Boss OC-3 and a EH Multiplexer.
The short of octaves is Digital = clearish for the most part / Analog Synthy for the most part but not always.
I keep meaning to, I really only use the MXR and I REALLY like it, I like the EHX too but I never use it, although I do use the OC-3 a lot as a paperweight though
And a good one? Which one? Who makes a perfect one? there isn't one I haven't read complaints about.........
Octavers are certainly a tricky territory. But the best thing to do is to try out an OC-2 and a Micro POG, since they're at opposite ends of the tonal spectrum, and see which is closer to what you're looking for. If you're happy with neither, your experience can guide you to the ideal choice.
Lots of people complain about tracking issues with octave pedals, but the reality is that no analog octave pedal fares well on the "E" string and below. To be fair, most people won't be playing that low with an octave pedal anyway... and if you are, it's not going to be very audible.
People will claim that some pedals can track an open "E", but any decent octaver can produce the sub-octave note. The real problem is sustaining it, and no analog octaver I've used can do that particularly well on the lowest notes without getting a little chaotic. Good technique works wonders, but you're still at the mercy of the pedal if you're trying to sustain the note for more than a quick "thump."
Also, it's my understanding that tracking is supposed to be specific to digital pedals, but it seems to get misapplied to analog pedals. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that. But while I'm at it... the Whammy has notoriously poor chord tracking - it's best for cleanly played single notes. But IMO, that's part of its charm. You'd have to play with one to see what I mean.
I'm a fan of that "dirty digital" sound.
Lots of people complain about tracking issues with octave pedals, but the reality is that no analog octave pedal fares well on the "E" string and below. To be fair, most people won't be playing that low with an octave pedal anyway... and if you are, it's not going to be very audible.
People will claim that some pedals can track an open "E", but any decent octaver can produce the sub-octave note. The real problem is sustaining it, and no analog octaver I've used can do that particularly well on the lowest notes without getting a little chaotic. Good technique works wonders, but you're still at the mercy of the pedal if you're trying to sustain the note for more than a quick "thump."
Also, it's my understanding that tracking is supposed to be specific to digital pedals, but it seems to get misapplied to analog pedals. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that. But while I'm at it... the Whammy has notoriously poor chord tracking - it's best for cleanly played single notes. But IMO, that's part of its charm. You'd have to play with one to see what I mean.
I'm a fan of that "dirty digital" sound.
I keep meaning to, I really only use the MXR and I REALLY like it, I like the EHX too but I never use it, although I do use the OC-3 a lot as a paperweight though
And a good one? Which one? Who makes a perfect one? there isn't one I haven't read complaints about.........
oc-2, ebs octabass or maybe the new mxr. or a pog/micropog. some folks like the octron. there you go
Me too. I like them all for what they do, really. But I'm pretty sure I don't want a Boss. I've got an ME-33 and I like the sounds it gets, but the tracking is very bad on the octave up. I know it's a guitar effect, but geez, it can't track any lower than the open A on a 4-string. I'm going to try to hit the stores later today. Hopefully they'll have a Whammy I can compare the other ones to whilst I wait for the one I bought on Ebay.Also, it's my understanding that tracking is supposed to be specific to digital pedals, but it seems to get misapplied to analog pedals. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that. But while I'm at it... the Whammy has notoriously poor chord tracking - it's best for cleanly played single notes. But IMO, that's part of its charm. You'd have to play with one to see what I mean.
I'm a fan of that "dirty digital" sound.
If you want a cheap clean sounding octaver with flawless tracking, but don't mind the fact that it can't do a solo octave like the OC-2, try the Digitech Bass Synth Wah.
Also, tracking is not just for digital pedals. Analog pedals still have to track your notes, there was a good discussion of it over in this thread.
Digitally, it's possible to make an octave effect that does pure pitchshifting that won't suffer from any tracking issues, by employing the same timestretching algorithms you get in many studios and VST plugins. But if you're trying to generate a tone to match a specific pitch (like most analog octavers do), that's where the tracking comes in, and it can warble because the incoming signal is made up of various mixed frequencies instead of a pure sine wave.
Also, tracking is not just for digital pedals. Analog pedals still have to track your notes, there was a good discussion of it over in this thread.
Digitally, it's possible to make an octave effect that does pure pitchshifting that won't suffer from any tracking issues, by employing the same timestretching algorithms you get in many studios and VST plugins. But if you're trying to generate a tone to match a specific pitch (like most analog octavers do), that's where the tracking comes in, and it can warble because the incoming signal is made up of various mixed frequencies instead of a pure sine wave.
The thing is I'm not all that into OC-2s, digital octaves bore me and I have concerns about the quality of the new MXR stuff because of all the bad reports on the Carbon Copy I've read online as well as the fact that my guitarist's one came with the regain not working.Some day I'll look into the EBS and foxx rocks but not now.
