HELP!!!

[Snowy_here]

I just got the fender rumble stage 800 and was thinking about adding an extension cabinet (just because). I know there is the standard 210 that connects perfect to it but I saw its only 700W. The GK neo has 1000W (even though it is a lot more may be worth it to maybe upgrade amp heads?) I dunno I am a novice when it comes to this stuff. Maybe best bet would be to look at marketplace for other cabs or do I need this particular one? Oh and I play in a metal/doom band that needs to cut thru an insanely loud drummer and 2 guitars...help!!

 

[michael_t]

I just got the fender rumble stage 800 and was thinking about adding an extension cabinet (just because). I know there is the standard 210 that connects perfect to it but I saw its only 700W.

An 800w combo with an extension cab means the extension cab would receive half of 800w (= 400w), which is less than the maximum power handling of 700w. I don't see any problem there.

 

[Snowy_here]

An 800w combo with an extension cab means the extension cab would receive half of 800w (= 400w), which is less than the maximum power handling of 700w. I don't see any problem there.

would that be the loudest I could get with my current set up?

 

[michael_t]

would that be the loudest I could get with my current set up?

The Stage 800 with its internal 210 alone puts out 400w. In order to get the full 800w you do need an extension cab. 800w thru 4x10 (2x 210). You don't think that's going to be loud enough?

 

[Redbrangus]

The 700-watt rating of the Rumble cab and the 1000-watt rating of the GK are the maximum rated power they are capable of dissipating and give no indication of loudness or anything else. The sensitivity rating would give you a better indication of which would be louder with the amp power that you have, but unfortunately, not all manufacturers make that data easily available. AND... loudness ain't the only thing there is; you also want the combination of the two speaker systems to sound good together. On that count alone, I'd go with the Fender cab.

 

[Snowy_here]

My main thing is since I'll be playing LOUD with overdrives and distortion don't want to blow out speakers and keep my clarity and have headroom

 

[lug]

Loud enough? Well that depends on which colosseum you plan to play in.

 

[NitroBobby]

most of the gigs that i have played with the full band were with an Aguilar AG500SC into a GK212 Neo (i). I never got close to max volume. that setup is 250ish watts. volume was never an issue.
i obviously don't know what you need out of your rig but i can tell you that 400w is a lot of power & volume does not depend on watts alone. adding a second cabinet will get you louder than more watts due to the increased surface area of the speakers moving air. in your case, the extension cabinet will bring your rig up to 800w and have more speakers. if that's not going to cut it volume wise, you should probably look at power amps and full PA support. also, invest in some good hearing protection.
what venues are you playing that you need to be that loud? i'm genuinely curious. i feel like the only time i would consider bringing my second GK212 would be for a large outdoor gig with lousy PA support. beyond that, i can't see needing anything more than the 212 with one of my heads. a lot of places now have good PA support and you don't need much on the stage. the amp on stage is more for your monitor than for the audience to hear in those cases. when your stage amp gets too loud, it messes with the FOH and pisses off the sound engineer.
to answer your question though, the cabinet that matches your amp perfectly is that way for a reason. it was made to pair with the amp. 700w is fine since it will only see 400w from the amp (1/2 of the 800w rating). that setup would be way more than your average bass player would need for the majority of the venues they play. if you're crushing some aggressive heavy metal in a large venue with no FOH, it should hold up fine too. good luck with your decisions.

kgb

 

[Element Zero]

I’ll give you a dose of reality. 800 watts with 2 210 cabs “MIGHT” be enough if your focus is on more midrange and not the super low end. A lot of it depends on your guitarists on stage tone. If they have the typical mid scooped and tons of low end in their sound, likely no matter what rig you have, you’ll struggle to hear yourself. Unless you carve your tone to fit in between their frequencies.

The 210 combo along with a 410 cab would be likely adequate.

 

[Marc Speed]

If you are playing in a venue that requires more volume than your rig will produce, won’t you be running through the P.A.anyway?

 

[blastoff]

i vote try it and find out, then let us know. the worst that could happen is its not loud enough and you'll return it or sell it. but we'll have one more data point in this highly scientific peer reviewed open forum called talkbass.

 

[el murdoque]

Since you mention distortion and loud playing:


Some people here can't even imagine how loud band rooms can get. With a hard hitting drummer playing metal, you can easily reach the limits of what an 800W into a 4x10 cabinet can deliver, especially when the guitar player(s) have no volume discipline either.


The Rumble 800 comes with the impedance switch that allows for an external 4 ohm load to be connected.
If so, then you can go for a 4x10 cabinet that runs on 4 ohms - I don't think Fender is making these at the moment, though.

The Rumble 500 combo and the Rumble 210 cabinet run the same speakers (Eminence Ceramic), while the Rumble 800 runs Neo speakers.
I don't think Fender has the matching cabinet at the moment.

Nonetheless, to maximize volume, a 4 ohm 4x10 cabinet would give you a 6x10 setup where every single 10" speaker is receiving the same wattage.
Running an 8 ohm 410 along with the rumble would split the amp power 50/50 between the internal 210 and the external 410, meaning the speakers in the 410 only see half the power.

 

[erratick]

please wear hearing protection.

 

[S-Bigbottom]

The 4 Ohm 4x10 is a good plan.

ALWAYS WEAR EARPLUGS!