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Here Today, Gone Later Today | innovations that failed

Looking through some old BP's I was struck by some innovations in bass tech that didn't take. The lightwave pup was most obvious, but I thought that was a weird and wonky idea from day one. The 2Tek bridge seemed like a great step forward, but I haven't seen/heard about it in a while. PBC's 'floating neck' design was a crash and burn, too...

What else has shot-but-not-scored recently?
 
Maybe not recent, but I remember waiting for the Peavey Cyberbass for years. Never seemed to materialize.
 
Hi.

Don't know whether any basses were constructed with the strange "fretboard" that was like small wedges machined into a plastic (metal? ) piece. Looked like a saw-tooth from the side.

A relatively bad idea from the get go, but that didn't prevent the inventor from patenting it :).

Anyone got a link to that?

Regards
Sam
 
Hi.

Don't know whether any basses were constructed with the strange "fretboard" that was like small wedges machined into a plastic (metal? ) piece. Looked like a saw-tooth from the side.

A relatively bad idea from the get go, but that didn't prevent the inventor from patenting it :).

Anyone got a link to that?

Regards
Sam


I remember that. It was the BOND guitar design. The Edge from U2 was a big endorsor. I wondered if a bass version would ever come out.

TM Stevens was a big Peavey CyberBass endorser. I haven't seen one in years, but they did put it out there. Guess it died a quick death.

What was the 'Torzal Twist'?
 
I remember that. I was the BOND guitar design. The Edge from U2 was a big endorsor. I wondered if a bass version would ever come out.

TM Stevens was a big Peavey CyberBass endorser. I haven't seen one in years, but they did put it out there. Guess it died a quick death.

What was the 'Torzal Twist'?

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The torzal twist bass was genius. I'm really surprised, especially with the number of fanned-fretted instruments I see, that the idea didn't take off. I never tried one, so I can't comment on the ease of playability, but it seemed pheasable.

I bet it comes back in 10 years.



The fretted/fretless fretboard switch (not the replacable fretboard) comes to mind as a short-lived idea.
 
EBows.....I know they're still around but IMHO are a failure.

They've been in business for 33 years and they're still pretty popular with guitarists- not sure how that would qualify as a failure. I know that if mine breaks I'll certainly get another :D
 
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The torzal twist bass was genius. I'm really surprised, especially with the number of fanned-fretted instruments I see, that the idea didn't take off. I never tried one, so I can't comment on the ease of playability, but it seemed pheasable.

I bet it comes back in 10 years.



The fretted/fretless fretboard switch (not the replacable fretboard) comes to mind as a short-lived idea.

i loved the torzal twist idea, just smart thinking and innovative design for more comfort for suffering carpal/tendonitis/arthritic bassists. what more could you want? also really loved the fretted/fretless idea but it was so danged expensive there was really no room for it to take off. kind of a marketing flaw if you ask me, cause i only really ever heard about by word of TB.
 
How about the Accugroove 4 ohm/8 ohm switchable impedance cabinets?

Yeah- they might as well have included a "Launch Unicorn!" button next to the Accuswitch- it would have worked just as well.
 
This is mine, Westone Rail. Kind of cool, in a Grabber sort of way. Made from '84 to '86, was never popular.
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Hi.

I remember that. It was the BOND guitar design. The Edge from U2 was a big endorsor. I wondered if a bass version would ever come out.

Thanks TimWilson, that was it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_Electraglide

I was in upper secondary school back then and as I had just started building instruments, I did some calculations about using overlapping brass or steel pieces to acchieve the same kind of a fretboard. Unfortunately that was just one of my many ideas that never saw the light of day.

I did make a headless bass back then though :) :

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Can You say 80's :D


Regards
Sam
 
Wow, that IS a wild idea! I never saw that one! I can't imagine getting playable action on that, but it must be possible. I'd love to see one!

Ed Friedland even posted a video review about it. BP doesn't usually touch piss poor instruments. I have considered building one with the fretless I'm designing.