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Hofner-(not just Beatle Basses)-Group Part 2

Speaking of original string sets... what comes on the Ignition? It's a bargain bass, does it have bargain string?

Chiming in, I bought my Ignition back in December, one of two that were on the rack at Guitar Center. The one I bought clearly had the flatwound strings, felt pretty good between my fingers, compared to the other one which was newer and had the roundwound strings. The one I picked up was the Pro Edition and was marked as “Used” and at the time I thought the strings had been LaBella’s put on there by the previous owner before selling it to the store, but they’re definitely the Hofner Asian brand when I looked at the threading and compared some pictures of the two.

From a sound standpoint, the flats I was more familiar with were the Roto Jazz flats which I have on my Rickenbacker copy. These Asian ones have a deeper, rounder tone that works in pretty good congruence with the hollowbody Hofner, especially with the neck position, and resonate and snap well when both pickups are engaged (bridge rolled almost all the way off) with a deep punchier tone.

I haven’t been in any rush to get either Pyramid’s or LaBellas just yet, these stock strings aren’t just laying down, they’re doing some work despite the price point but it’s definitely a “your mileage may vary” situation, as my satisfaction for now may not be yours if you chose to keep them on there.
 
Chiming in, I bought my Ignition back in December, one of two that were on the rack at Guitar Center. The one I bought clearly had the flatwound strings, felt pretty good between my fingers, compared to the other one which was newer and had the roundwound strings. The one I picked up was the Pro Edition and was marked as “Used” and at the time I thought the strings had been LaBella’s put on there by the previous owner before selling it to the store, but they’re definitely the Hofner Asian brand when I looked at the threading and compared some pictures of the two.

From a sound standpoint, the flats I was more familiar with were the Roto Jazz flats which I have on my Rickenbacker copy. These Asian ones have a deeper, rounder tone that works in pretty good congruence with the hollowbody Hofner, especially with the neck position, and resonate and snap well when both pickups are engaged (bridge rolled almost all the way off) with a deep punchier tone.

I haven’t been in any rush to get either Pyramid’s or LaBellas just yet, these stock strings aren’t just laying down, they’re doing some work despite the price point but it’s definitely a “your mileage may vary” situation, as my satisfaction for now may not be yours if you chose to keep them on there.

Last year when I got my '64 500/1 back out of it's case and started using it again, I bought a set of the HCT flatwounds just to see if I was going to start playing my 500/1 more often. The strings were cheap so I wasn't worried if I ended up putting the bass back in it's case again, but I was pleasantly surprised they weren't that bad at all they even had the green silk ends as well.
If i needed a set of strings & funds were short, I'd buy another set to keep me playing my Hofner. Plus I liked the packaging that they came in.
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Last year when I got my '64 500/1 back out of it's case and started using it again, I bought a set of the HCT flatwounds just to see if I was going to start playing my 500/1 more often. The strings were cheap so I wasn't worried if I ended up putting the bass back in it's case again, but I was pleasantly surprised they weren't that bad at all they even had the green silk ends as well.
If i needed a set of strings & funds were short, I'd buy another set to keep me playing my Hofner. Plus I liked the packaging that they came in.
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And played through a big ol' v3 Rumble! :thumbsup:
 
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My recently purchased new HCT 500/7 Verythin came with the cheap factory Hofner rounds and it quickly became apparent that they would have to go. I had used sets of short scale TI Jazz rounds and flats that I'd used on the Guild Starfire II I'd had for a few years. I started with the well-used TI rounds but soon remembered why I'd stopped using them. They're just a bit too low tension for my taste, and they were pretty grungy looking and somewhat dull sounding.

The Jazz flats worked much better and I liked the sounds I was getting at home, but at the first rehearsal with the Verythin and flats, the result was a bit underwhelming. I didn't buy this bass to emulate the classic Macca sound.

Wanting to try a better set of rounds, I went to my local shop in search of medium scale strings. The only choice they had available were short scale DR Hi-Beam rounds, a string that I hadn't considered. I'd used a set of long scale Hi-Beams on my Fender Jazz years ago and mostly remembered them for retaining their brightness for a long time, being fairly low tension and a bit scooped sounding. Nickel rounds and flats have been my strings of choice in recent years.

Given their relatively low cost ($24 USD) and lack of other immediate alternative, I decided to try the short scale Hi-Beams. Their gauges are 45-105 but with the round core, the tension is perfect (for me) and despite my concern, they're not obnoxiously bright sounding with plenty of warm low end. The bass had arrived set up very well but with the DRs, the intonation has improved and is now perfect at the 18th fret (high D) on the G string. Next week is the first gig with the Verythin and the first true test. I can hardly wait to unleash this thing through my Orange Terror Bass 500.
 
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Played Sunday with my band project with my (unfortunately) modified 68. I had to put in a new pickup harness on the 68, since the original pickups need to be rewound and that is not an easy task where I live. The new pickup harness sounds great, but unfortunately the fella who installed it drilled new holes in the bass. Arrrr! I was not happy about it, but there was no much I could do once it was done. Anyway, it was a great weekend for playing.

Here is my modified 68.
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Played Sunday with my band project with my (unfortunately) modified 68. I had to put in a new pickup harness on the 68, since the original pickups need to be rewound and that is not an easy task where I live. The new pickup harness sounds great, but unfortunately the fella who installed it drilled new holes in the bass. Arrrr! I was not happy about it, but there was no much I could do once it was done. Anyway, it was a great weekend for playing.

Here is my modified 68.
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Just the one switch - tell me it's not a 'Producer' switch! What does it do?
 
Played Sunday with my band project with my (unfortunately) modified 68. I had to put in a new pickup harness on the 68, since the original pickups need to be rewound and that is not an easy task where I live. The new pickup harness sounds great, but unfortunately the fella who installed it drilled new holes in the bass. Arrrr! I was not happy about it, but there was no much I could do once it was done. Anyway, it was a great weekend for playing.

Here is my modified 68.
Just the one switch - tell me it's not a 'Producer' switch! What does it do?

I just use the neck blade pickup, and I only purchased one before they were discontinued by Hofner. The other pickup is an Ignition staple pickup that is there mostly for looks. So in one position for the switch only the neck pickup is engaged. In the other position both pickups are engaged. When both pickups are engaged even the neck pickup sounds a bit different. I ran the bass with just the blade pickup and a volume knob for awhile but it didn't look right. Hence, the new set up. I have all the old parts in a bag. One day it will be restored.
 
And played through a big ol' v3 Rumble! :thumbsup:

Yeah I've had the Rumble 200 Combo just over 9 years it's a fantastic amp, vintage switch on controls at noon & that's it. :thumbsup:

Played Sunday with my band project with my (unfortunately) modified 68. I had to put in a new pickup harness on the 68, since the original pickups need to be rewound and that is not an easy task where I live. The new pickup harness sounds great, but unfortunately the fella who installed it drilled new holes in the bass. Arrrr! I was not happy about it, but there was no much I could do once it was done. Anyway, it was a great weekend for playing.

Here is my modified 68.
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Lovely condition for it's age it's a year younger than me & in much better nick :laugh:. I presume the original control panel is still with you so, you can return it to stock at anytime. :thumbsup:
 
Yeah I've had the Rumble 200 Combo just over 9 years it's a fantastic amp, vintage switch on controls at noon & that's it. :thumbsup:



Lovely condition for it's age it's a year younger than me & in much better nick :laugh:. I presume the original control panel is still with you so, you can return it to stock at anytime. :thumbsup:
Yes, all the original parts are in a bag. Once I retire to a less isolated community I can get repaired properly.
 
I wrote to Hofner and asked if there is an Artist Club Bass planned for the future?
Their fairly quick response from Thomas M. Jordan:

" Thank you for your interest in our instruments and products.
Yes, we are considering producing an artist version of the club bass. Unfortunately I don't have a completion date yet.
Please have a look at our website: www.hofner.com "

I wait patiently.
 
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So it's finally here... I've now a proud member of the Hofner Club since last week.
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First : It's gorgeous ! It's beautiful. And it also sounds great. Love it !

On the dark side, when it arrived, the neck pickup was dislodged. And strings were also not aligned with the pickups, just like @Deleted member 268085 (but in mine the strings are too much towards the G string), and the E string sounded off. I moved the bridge, and now strings are aligned (and E string sounds fine), but it makes an angle at the bridge : the tailpiece is not centered on the neck. Not much, but I'm afraid it will make the bridge move towards the G string again.
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I'll take it to my luthier for fixing the bridge, fix the intonation, and see if we can move the tailpiece a little.

Also : the bass comes with Schaller Strap Locks pins, but the strap (given with the bass) doesn't have the strap locks. So dumb ! The neck is huge, and the ergonomy is... well... not good. Playing with a strap the bass turns towards my feet, and I must keep it balanced with my forearm, and it hurts. Strings are also close to each other, and playing with fingers is difficult (at least for me, but I think that bass is meant to be played with a pick). The neck is also bigger than my Fender's.

In conclusion : it's a great bass, it's very beautiful, it's a piece of art, and I like to see it hanging on the wall. The sound is very nice. But ergonomically, I prefer my Fenders (and I think I'll keep my PB or my JB as workhorse). I definitely need some more practice to be accustomed to this new bass. And too bad that at this price I need to fix some annoyance at the luthier. But I love it !
 
So it's finally here... I've now a proud member of the Hofner Club since last week.
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First : It's gorgeous ! It's beautiful. And it also sounds great. Love it !

On the dark side, when it arrived, the neck pickup was dislodged. And strings were also not aligned with the pickups, just like @Deleted member 268085 (but in mine the strings are too much towards the G string), and the E string sounded off. I moved the bridge, and now strings are aligned (and E string sounds fine), but it makes an angle at the bridge : the tailpiece is not centered on the neck. Not much, but I'm afraid it will make the bridge move towards the G string again.
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I'll take it to my luthier for fixing the bridge, fix the intonation, and see if we can move the tailpiece a little.

Also : the bass comes with Schaller Strap Locks pins, but the strap (given with the bass) doesn't have the strap locks. So dumb ! The neck is huge, and the ergonomy is... well... not good. Playing with a strap the bass turns towards my feet, and I must keep it balanced with my forearm, and it hurts. Strings are also close to each other, and playing with fingers is difficult (at least for me, but I think that bass is meant to be played with a pick). The neck is also bigger than my Fender's.

In conclusion : it's a great bass, it's very beautiful, it's a piece of art, and I like to see it hanging on the wall. The sound is very nice. But ergonomically, I prefer my Fenders (and I think I'll keep my PB or my JB as workhorse). I definitely need some more practice to be accustomed to this new bass. And too bad that at this price I need to fix some annoyance at the luthier. But I love it !
Yours came with a strap? Mine didn't. I agree that the ergonomics aren't the best. If I weren't a collector, I probably wouldn't have bought it, but I'd been GASing for one for a long time. GAS (and money) are gone. I'm not gigging at the moment, and may never again, so it will just get occasional use in my home studio.
 
You just have to get used to the ergonomics. It’s not a solid body bolt on electric bass, approaching it like it is a fender is wrong. This is a neck through arch top fully hollow body bass. Adjust and play accordingly. You will have higher action, you will have narrower string spacing. But you will also have tones and sounds and feel and that a solid body can’t and won’t ever come close to doing. One isn’t right or wrong, they are simply different. Learn to embrace the differences and highlight them in your playing.

Do you hear guitarists complaining about how their Gibson L-5 doesn’t play like a strat? No. Because they realize they are completely different in build and style. It’s also more common for guitarists to have many different types of guitars (solid body, hollow, classical, acoustic, slide) that are built and setup differently, so they are more used to dealing with different setups and styles. I get it is not as common as bassists (we usually play the same thing for the whole show), but give it some time and learn to adapt before writing it off.
 
You just have to get used to the ergonomics. It’s not a solid body bolt on electric bass, approaching it like it is a fender is wrong. This is a neck through arch top fully hollow body bass. Adjust and play accordingly. You will have higher action, you will have narrower string spacing. But you will also have tones and sounds and feel and that a solid body can’t and won’t ever come close to doing. One isn’t right or wrong, they are simply different. Learn to embrace the differences and highlight them in your playing.

Do you hear guitarists complaining about how their Gibson L-5 doesn’t play like a strat? No. Because they realize they are completely different in build and style. It’s also more common for guitarists to have many different types of guitars (solid body, hollow, classical, acoustic, slide) that are built and setup differently, so they are more used to dealing with different setups and styles. I get it is not as common as bassists (we usually play the same thing for the whole show), but give it some time and learn to adapt before writing it off.

I agree with all of that. I play bass for only 5 years, and this Hofner is my third bass. The other two are a JB and a PB. I compared my Violin Bass to my Fenders because it's the only point of reference I have. I know that the Hofner is different : that's the main reason I bought it, because it's different. And I have understood that it must be played differently, it's just that I didn't learn how to play it yet. It will comes.
 
Yours came with a strap? Mine didn't. I agree that the ergonomics aren't the best. If I weren't a collector, I probably wouldn't have bought it, but I'd been GASing for one for a long time. GAS (and money) are gone. I'm not gigging at the moment, and may never again, so it will just get occasional use in my home studio.

Yes, it comes with a strap. It's advertised here :
Hofner 500/1 Violin Bass
"Includes Höfner Vintage strap and case."
And yes, it's the vintage strap :
Hofner Quality
 
I agree with all of that. I play bass for only 5 years, and this Hofner is my third bass. The other two are a JB and a PB. I compared my Violin Bass to my Fenders because it's the only point of reference I have. I know that the Hofner is different : that's the main reason I bought it, because it's different. And I have understood that it must be played differently, it's just that I didn't learn how to play it yet. It will comes.
I just took a good look at your avatar. "When do we eat?" Ha ha ha. Who did the artwork? You?
 

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