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HOTONE MP-100 Ampero

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Only played with headphones on bass but This is getting better and better.
The menu is so easy. It has a lot going on in there so it should not be a problem finding your sound. It’s easy to Edit and save presets with intuitive touch screen. And you can name presets whatever you want.
Largest tuner screen I’ve ever had.

Wonder if screen will survive a gig.

For home and practice this is a keeper. Drum machine, looper, phones and aux, di, and more.
So far so good.
 
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BrentSimons said:
Wow! That sounds great to my ears. :)
Plus it makes me want to pick up a Stingray again! :)
I would still like to see a few more bass amp models before I would be persuaded. But sounds very nice!
Best wishes to all,
Brent
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Yeah. I'm gonna hang out for a while to see how this pedal progresses in terms of firmware updates and reliability. I think it still needs to mature a bit.
 
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squarewave said:
The Ampero is shown as in stock at Sweetwater for $399.

I read the manual. It looks like a good deal to me. There are a lot of effects, and models of the SVT, B-15, Mesa 400, and maybe more that I can't recall. There are also different mics and bass-specific cab models.
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Yup I took a peek at the manual too! :)
Ampeg SVT, B-15, Mesa 400, Alembic F2b preamp , Vox Ac100. Lots of cab sims Eden etc
Looks like 2 Bass specific overdrive/distortion pedals.
Neat!
Brent
 
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Havard Ramses said:
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Only played with headphones on bass but This is getting better and better.
The menu is so easy. It has a lot going on in there so it should not be a problem finding your sound. It’s easy to Edit and save presets with intuitive touch screen. And you can name presets whatever you want.
Largest tuner screen I’ve ever had.

Wonder if screen will survive a gig.

For home and practice this is a keeper. Drum machine, looper, phones and aux, di, and more.
So far so good.
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Hi there,
Are you still enjoying it? I would love to hear some clips if you could?
Thank you,
Brent
 
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One thing to remember about modeling.
The stuff I've heard in Pro Tools is great.
The stuff I've heard from some other modeling pedals sounded like poo.
Seems like a great idea on paper doesn't always sound great for modeling software.
Really interested to try it in front of an amp for live use.

That demo is worthless for anyone who does not play exclusively with a pick, or who chooses an undistorted tone IMO.
 
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BrentSimons said:
Hi there,
Are you still enjoying it? I would love to hear some clips if you could?
Thank you,
Brent
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Yes. Love it.

I've used it live many times with acoustic guitar. Thru a PA speaker and it sounds great. Think I'm gonna buy a Alto or Headrush speaker. I lead worship in a small church.
And its perfect for electric guitar.

Only used it one time on bass with band reahearsel. It colors the sound so it takes time to find your sound.
I use a jazzbass and a Markbass III amp.

I can confirm that the Ampero has replaced mye three other pedalboard. It got som much going on inside there.
 
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Recent firmware 3.0 upgrade allows for full rearrangement of the module blocks.
This is a guitarist demo, but it does show the upgrade process and application on pedal:


Specifically for bassists, I culled the following from the owner's manual:

effects/drives
  • Dynamic Basso A special envelope filter (a.k.a. touch wah) designed for bassists, provides a natural, smooth sound full of analog feel
  • Bass Press Based on Hotone Bass Press (WAH mode)
  • Bass Crusher Based on a yellow bass overdrive pedal with wide tonal range
  • Solid Steel A bass drive with rich, solid sound and flexible tonal range
amp/preamp
  • Alchemy Pre Based on Alembic™ F-2B* preamp
  • Ampage Classic Based on Ampeg® SVT* bass amp
  • Voxy Bass Based on vintage VOX * AC-100* bass amp
  • Messe Bass 400 Based on Mesa/Boogie® Bass 400* amp
cab sims
  • Adam 1x15 David Eden®* 1x15" bass cabinet
  • Worker 1x15® SWR * 1x15" bass cabinet
  • Flip Top 1x15 Ampeg® PF-115HE* 1x15" bass cabinet
  • US Bass 2x10 Mesa/Boogie®* 2x10" bass cabinet
  • Mark 2x10 Mark Bass®* 4x10" bass cabinet
  • Adam 4x10 David Eden®* 4x10" bass cabinet
  • Ampage 4x10 Ampeg® SVT-410HE* 4x10" bass cabinet
  • Worker 4x10® SWR Workingman's* 4x10" bass cabinet
  • Hacker 4x12 Hartke®* 4x12" bass cabinet
  • Ampage 8x10Ampeg SVT-810E* 8x10" bass cabinet
acoustic simulations

  • Fretless Bass Simulates a fretless acoustic bass
  • Double Bass Simulates a double bass
eq
  • Bass EQ 1 Equalizer designed for basses
  • Bass EQ 2 Equalizer designed for basses
  • Para EQ 4-band parametric EQ with low/high shelving filters suitable for any instrument
 
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So this pedal is coming along nicely, and priced at +/-$399 worth considering toward the low-end price point.
IMO, key features that would help the Ampero stand out in its class:

- ability to selectively split the outputs: unbalanced 1/4" to amp without cab sim, XLR to PA with cab sim engaged
OR
- ability to selectively split outputs based on a crossover point (XLR Left = hi, Right = lo, or XLR = hi, 1/4" = lo, etc...)
- compressors: need to have mix/blend functions and/or multi-band (at least two, 3 even better) to be flexible for bass
- amp models that are companions to some of the cabinets represented (SWR, Eden, Hartke)
- as always, additional bass amp models (additional cab models can be found via 3rd party IR vendors)
- as always, specific drive/preamp models like Darkglass and Sans Amp BDDI.

However, there is still the issue of having to tap-dance a little bit if you want to use this in a more stomp-box fashion - a problem that also plagues many pedals at the lower cost end of things with limited switching. There are a lot of things to like about the Ampero design and work flow, though. IR loading, color touch screen, USB, MIDI, and programmability are all very strong points.

Right now, this is priced at 2x the B3n ($199), $100 more than the G5n ($299 but no bass specific stuff), and $200 less than the Helix HX Stomp($599). A tweener for certain. With the new MOOER pedals available, there are quite a few great options now for getting into some very good quality modelers for bass without breaking the bank.
 
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Is this just another cheapo Chinese ripoff of a Helix running a reverse-engineered version of someone else’s stolen firmware?

Sure, buy one of these now for a bit of budget short-term gain, but in ten years time the companies who are doing all the innovating will be being strangled out by others who have no R&D costs.
 

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