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How are 6x10's wired?

mmbongo

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Firstly, let's get this part out of the way....I actually do have an advanced understanding of impedance, resistance, speaking wiring, and speaker building. So don't tiptoe around with your answers, I'll understand it :)

The question is...how are 6x10's normally wired? As is all parallel, series/parallel, does it really matter as long as the final impedance is correct?

Now, here's why I ask.

I have the following GK cabs:
410 MBE. 8 ohms. Assuming it's four 32 ohm speakers in parallel.
210 MBE. 8 ohms. Assuming it's two 16 ohm speakers in parallel.
I will verify those figures, I just haven't opened up the cab yet.

I have used these two cabs together, for a total of 4 ohms of course. But I'm assuming (there's that word again) that the speakers in the 210 are receiving more power than the ones in the 410 because they are 16 ohm vs 32 ohm in the 410. So I'm a little uneasy about doing that. Firstly, is my thinking here correct?

Now my idea is to replace the speakers in the 210 with the same 32 ohm drivers that are in the 410. That would make six 32 ohm speakers in parallel for a 5.3 ohm load. If they were all in the same cabinet I guess it would make more sense to me, but the fact that it's two cabinets is just causing me trouble wrapping my head around it. Partly because it would now be an 8 ohm cabinet and a 16 ohm cabinet and that just seems weird to me as now it seems to me that the 8 ohm cab would get twice the power as the 16 ohm cab....but all the speakers would be the same and they are all in parallel so it actually would not matter....right?
 
32 ohm drivers?

Unless bass speaker tech is vastly different than guitar speakers I’d assume that 4x10 has 4 - 8ohm speakers in it wired in series/parallel to get 8ohms.

I have not verified that they are 32 ohm speakers with my own eyes yet, but GK says that these 32 ohm 10" drivers are what they put in the cab:

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Plus, they do not make an 8 ohm 10" Neo driver.
 
32 ohm drivers?

Unless bass speaker tech is vastly different than guitar speakers I’d assume that 4x10 has 4 - 8ohm speakers in it wired in series/parallel to get 8ohms.

I would have assumed the same thing, but I poked around on the GK site and found these replacements -

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I learn a lot hanging out here when I'm bored. Thanks, mmbongo.
 
Huh, I learned something new! I don't think 32ohm guitar speakers are a thing, it must offer some advantage in bass speakers.

I can say that I tend to favor 16ohm guitar speakers vs 8ohm. It's also not unusual to run non-matching impedance guitar cabs with the same amp.
 
Many 6x10s are 8 ohm drivers wired in series/parallel for 5.33 ohms.

Some actually use custom 6 or 24 ohm drivers for 4 ohms.

Here's the replacement for the Ampeg 610HLF which is a 6 ohm drivers. (View the label on the graphic)
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I believe Bergantino uses 24 ohm drivers in the NV610 and NV610T
 
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Some actually use custom 6 or 24 ohm drivers for 4 ohms.

Here's the replacement for the Ampeg 610HLF which is a 6 ohm drivers. (View the label on the graphic)
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I believe Bergantino uses 24 ohm drivers in the NV610 and NV610T

Interesting! Any idea what SWR rocked for their Goliath Senior? Mine is my baby, just curious what ohm’age I’m actually working with.
 

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Some actually use custom 6 or 24 ohm drivers for 4 ohms.

Here's the replacement for the Ampeg 610HLF which is a 6 ohm drivers. (View the label on the graphic)
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I believe Bergantino uses 24 ohm drivers in the NV610 and NV610T

Yep. N x (target impedance) ohm custom drivers in parallel are used when you want failure of one driver open not to affect any of the others.
 
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Ahh... makes sense!

Now, you COULD wire an 8x10 with 8ohm speakers to result in a 4ohm load, but that of course is more complicated.

But, while I’m not a speaker engineer, I believe there are other advantages to higher impedance speakers...
Couldn't tell you about that. I'm not an engineer, either.