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how did musicians play live without hearing protection??

these days, you always hear the advice “wear hearing protection onstage if you don’t want to go deaf” in the situation of live shows. but… what in the hell were they doing back then??? you don’t hear every musician from the 60s and 70s saying they have significant hearing loss, apart from the odd pete townshend. but even so, they were loooooud back then, and they had to be. amplification was less reliant on venue speakers, and the power was in the amps and how loud the drummer was… which is suuuper loud. these days, playing drums without hearing protection (i don’t do it regularly, if at all) for me literally brings pain to my ears, and i don’t understand how musicians played live with such loud playing environments and loud instruments without being in constant pain. think beatles shows, cream shows, any rock show being onstage with a drummer.

Not every musician from that time has hearing loss. Some of 'em are dead. </very bad black humor>

Seriously though, a lot of the guys from that time are dealing with hearing loss of some kind, whether they publicly admit it or not. The guys from the early 60s (i.e. Beatles) had it a little easier, but by Woodstock, on-stage wattages were ridiculous. Many of them "got used to it", as soldiers of the day got used to the volume of small arms fire. Nobody really realized the long-term damage they were doing to their ears until years later, and anyway there really wasn't much else they could do; foam or wax earplugs that seal the ear canal change the timbre and even pitch perception of the ear, and the only other option until IEMs came along were big clunky shooting earmuffs, which weren't exactly a great stage look. Technology like brickwall limiting circuits that enable modern electronic hearing protection were studio monoliths, they wouldn't be small enough to fit in a pair of earphones until the late 90s, and they've really only just become cost-effective for the average musician. So, suffering for your art was really the only viable option.

As for why stage rigs got as ridiculous as they did, Colin Short, of the YouTube channel CS Guitars, has a pretty good digest of what was happening in this time to give us monsters like the iconic Marshall Plexi full-stack:


The short of it, for those who don't like inline YouTubes or Scottish accents, is that when the British Invasion first started, American pop music crowds, mostly teenage girls, had turned their "appreciation" for Elvis's gyrating hips into a fashion of spending the entire show screaming. This wall of high-pitched peri-pubescent noise totally overwhelmed the limited power of the amps of the day, forcing bands like the Beatles and the Rolling Stones into a volume war with their own fans. PA systems used for vocals weren't up to the task of amplifying a full band either, requiring the guitar amps themselves to get louder. 15W 1x12 combos became 30w 2x12s, then 50w 4x12s, then 100w full-stacks. The iconic pictures of a wall of Marshalls behind Hendrix at Woodstock quickly became the fashion and expectation for rock shows, carrying this trend for high-wattage amps into the 90s, well after PA systems had finally caught up in power and response to the point that you could and did mike up the full band in the mains and zone fills used in the heyday of arena rock.

Bass players, for our part, were caught up and dragged along in this volume war, in which we were at an immediate disadvantage pretty much from day 1. Almost everyone here knows that 15W, or even 100W, isn't really loud enough for bass in a band setting without PA help. Most of us know why; the Fletcher-Munson curve means the human ear is less sensitive to bass frequencies, and hi-fi sound systems gave listeners a taste of bass, to which they quickly became addicted, requiring live sound to match those expectations. Even Ampeg's massive 300W SVT-series "fridges" were barely enough to keep up in the 70s and early 80s., and arena rock bassists, much like guitarists, were daisy-chaining those as well. Bassists wouldn't gain the massive wattage weapons we have now in their relatively portable packages until the proliferation of the solid-state op-amp in the late 70s. This dramatically reduced the weight and space requirements and increased the durability of power amplifiers of a certain wattage. That at least meant fewer stacks, though the bass full-stack wouldn't begin to decline in popularity until well into the new millenium.

What we're seeing now is a return to the more appropriately-rated smaller combos of the 60s, both to reduce headroom and get back that classic power tube overdrive sound, and to reduce stage volume to save our own hearing and our audience's. That's good for bassists as well, as we only have to compete with 15 to 30-watt tube amps instead of 100W, making combos in the 200-500w range more than enough, especially with a little extra in the foldbacks. Not to mention that smaller, lower-power gear is much easier to load-in and much less taxing on the venue's power panel. Paying attention to hearing protection is encouraged much like using sunscreen; we have the technology, the consequences of not making use of it are well-known, so just do it.
 
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I think it’s the norm for everyone who played back in the day to have some hearing loss/issues so they don’t especially bring it up.. that being said I met Duane Eddy recently and I remember thinking wow he’s so soft-spoken (and so am I) and he could easily hear everything I said, in a fairly loud room. So who knows!
 
I have ALWAYS worn ear plugs at rehearsals and gigs and generally have never had a problem hearing the others in the band.

However, my biggest concern nowadays is when I practice by myself. When I am finished playing for the day I am sometimes astounded how high the volume slider is. Even more so when I use headphones. I am making a conscious effort to practice at lower volumes.
 
After reading through this thread I just realized something. Now I know why certain bar bands play excessively loud. They’ don’t know they are loud because they are all deaf from playing so loud. Seriously.

Hearing loss is insidious. Unless you’ve experienced a single ear damaging incident you won’t realize you’re gradually losing your hearing until it’s too late.
 
these days, you always hear the advice “wear hearing protection onstage if you don’t want to go deaf” in the situation of live shows. but… what in the hell were they doing back then??? you don’t hear every musician from the 60s and 70s saying they have significant hearing loss, apart from the odd pete townshend. but even so, they were loooooud back then, and they had to be. amplification was less reliant on venue speakers, and the power was in the amps and how loud the drummer was… which is suuuper loud. these days, playing drums without hearing protection (i don’t do it regularly, if at all) for me literally brings pain to my ears, and i don’t understand how musicians played live with such loud playing environments and loud instruments without being in constant pain. think beatles shows, cream shows, any rock show being onstage with a drummer.

I used to play shows or rehearse in small, cramped basements without using ear plugs (for whatever reason, the inside of my ear is a sensitive spot and pressing on it triggers a gag reflex, no idea why except that bodies are weird). I'm 37 and I have mild tinnitus that comes and goes. I finally found better earplugs that don't trigger the gag reflex, I use them any time I'm playing at a high volume but the damage isn't ever going to go away.

Kids, don't be like me. Don't have unprotected music.
 
these days, you always hear the advice “wear hearing protection onstage if you don’t want to go deaf” in the situation of live shows. but… what in the hell were they doing back then??? you don’t hear every musician from the 60s and 70s saying they have significant hearing loss, apart from the odd pete townshend. but even so, they were loooooud back then, and they had to be. amplification was less reliant on venue speakers, and the power was in the amps and how loud the drummer was… which is suuuper loud. these days, playing drums without hearing protection (i don’t do it regularly, if at all) for me literally brings pain to my ears, and i don’t understand how musicians played live with such loud playing environments and loud instruments without being in constant pain. think beatles shows, cream shows, any rock show being onstage with a drummer.

All I can say is at age 68, I am totally amazed I can hear as well as I can having abused my hearing in the 60s-70s and 80’s. I have a slight midrange deficit right about where my wife’s speaking voice is (not joking here but from what I understand this is quite common), but really my audiologist said my hearing was above normal for my age. I bought ear filters a few years back of which are used for gigs, rehearsal, yard work involving gas powered equipment ( just 40 minute of exposure can cause permanent hearing loss BTW), using shop equipment, and concerts. These offer much better protection than foam ear plugs, as well as a more natural audio sound experience.
 
Both my father and father-in-law receive military pensions for hearing loss. One was an artillery officer and the other was an army bagpiper. Guess who had the worst hearing loss? The bagpiper! I played in pipe bands on and off for 20+ years. I’d often hear the pipes for days after a weekend of Highland games. But playing rock music in bar bands for the last 20 years did me in permanently. Permanent tinnitus and hearing loss.

I regret not taking steps to protect my hearing earlier in life.
 
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Hearing loss? Tinnitus? Yup. Had a loud life.
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Both my father and father-in-law receive military pensions for hearing loss. One was an artillery officer and the other was an army bagpiper. Guess who had the worst hearing loss? The bagpiper! I played in pipe bands on and off for 20+ years. I’d often hear the pipes for days after a weekend of Highland games. But playing rock music in bar bands for the last 20 years did me in permanently. Permanent tinnitus and hearing loss.

I regret not taking steps to protect my hearing earlier in life.
I believe a lot of us have and do suffer from being young and invincible. Or so we thought...
 
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I suppose it hasn’t been a major concern of mine.
I’ve played music for decades.
Shot guns all my life.
Work as a machinist for my career.
Rode motorcycles with half helmets for decades before switching to full face.

My hearing at 48.5 years gets tested routinely and is regarded as exceptional.
I consider myself lucky.
Lucky indeed! My high end hearing loss started in my late teens early twenties. Playing in jazz band with a crash cymbal on my right and the trumpet line on my left was definitely a factor.
 
I have a slight midrange deficit right about where my wife’s speaking voice is (not joking here but from what I understand this is quite common)

I can totally relate to this. Especially in situations like a noisy restaurant where I can't hear her (sitting right in front of me) yet I can hear diners at the next table just fine. I jokingly told her if she was a bass I wouldn't buy it because it doesn't cut through the mix!
 
Lucky indeed! My high end hearing loss started in my late teens early twenties. Playing in jazz band with a crash cymbal on my right and the trumpet line on my left was definitely a factor.

My ears were ringing since freshman year summer band. A 200-piece marching band, complete with drumline, spending the hottest hours of the day in the band hall rehearsing the music for the fall show. And I was in the back playing a sousa, usually right in front of the snare line. I'd be struggling to hear anyone besides the director through his bullhorn for the rest of the day.

What actually did noticeable damage, however, was a carnival ride in college. Had water in one ear from swimming earlier in the day. The ride was fully enclosed (one of the spinny "lie against the angled wall and the G-forces will push you up off your feet" rides), and the sound system in there was cranked to a ridiculous volume. I got of with my right ear ringing, and ever since it's been less sensitive to midrange. Playing in bands, by contrast, hasn't been anywhere near as taxing. Loud, certainly, but when it's done we can talk at normal volume on the front porch with no problem.
 
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Not every musician plays rock music. I never have to wear protection and rarely play with drummers… I’ve been a full time musician for a decade. I think making a blanket statement like “all musicians” and assuming all “musicians” play too loud is completely naive. Even when I do play rock type gigs the musicians I play with are not blasting away and are very much aware of onstage volume.
 
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