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You have to buy high end stuff. That’s what I did : custom molded with 10db filter. I hear everything, by softer and very comfortable. But this has a price : 275 $ Canadian. I tried cheaper ones (50$) but all I heard was mud and I couldn’t stop removing them every 5 minutes because of lack of comfort.I can’t play live with hearing protection. I need to hear everything. Especially myself. I’ll wear it watching/listening to it though.
You have to buy high end stuff. That’s what I did : custom molded with 10db filter. I hear everything, by softer and very comfortable. But this has a price : 275 $ Canadian. I tried cheaper ones (50$) but all I heard was mud and I couldn’t stop removing them every 5 minutes because of lack of comfort.
How did the old school car guys paint molten lead on the skin of cars barehanded and barefaced with a cigarette in their mouth?
How did Marie Curie handle radium?
Exactly. Sorry about your pops!Marie Curie died of radiation poisoning. My father was a glazier. He died of lung disease. Silica doesn’t degrade in the lungs.
An unamplified rock drum kit can damage your hearing at close quarters even without the world's loudest drummer behind it. And hearing damage is insidious, gradual and cumulative so people don't know until it's too late...
Custom molded means that it fits your ears. Here are my plugs with the 10db filter and my IEM, both custom molded. With the plugs, I hear everything, really, but 10db softer. I can easily hear my bandmates talking between songs when we rehearse. I also hear the high frequencies without any problem, only softer. Nothing to do with construction-type earplugs or muffs. The IEM cut 25db, so I have to rely on the soundman during a gig. We sometimes use a cheat mic to capture our conversations between songs when playing live.Oh I’m sure there’s a real science to it. Obviously a big difference with high end compared to one use stuff you get free at work.
As I mentioned in another thread. The only true protection I know of comes in the form of muffs. The entire ear needs to be covered. You can block the canal all you want but the ear is made up of small delicate bones that need cushioning from vibrating together or at all. I’m absolutely sure your custom plugs are a huge improvement in protection over standard ones though. We still need to “hear”.
you don’t hear every musician from the 60s and 70s saying they have significant hearing loss, apart from the odd pete townshend.
these days, you always hear the advice “wear hearing protection onstage if you don’t want to go deaf” in the situation of live shows. but… what in the hell were they doing back then??? you don’t hear every musician from the 60s and 70s saying they have significant hearing loss, apart from the odd pete townshend. but even so, they were loooooud back then, and they had to be. amplification was less reliant on venue speakers, and the power was in the amps and how loud the drummer was… which is suuuper loud. these days, playing drums without hearing protection (i don’t do it regularly, if at all) for me literally brings pain to my ears, and i don’t understand how musicians played live with such loud playing environments and loud instruments without being in constant pain. think beatles shows, cream shows, any rock show being onstage with a drummer.
I don't, I'm 68. Used those things in my avatar for years and still do when I can. I know plenty of old guys with no hearing problems. Huh?Actually, we do... Maybe you don't know enough old guys.
What? Speak up sonny.these days, you always hear the advice “wear hearing protection onstage if you don’t want to go deaf” in the situation of live shows. but… what in the hell were they doing back then??? you don’t hear every musician from the 60s and 70s saying they have significant hearing loss, apart from the odd pete townshend. but even so, they were loooooud back then, and they had to be. amplification was less reliant on venue speakers, and the power was in the amps and how loud the drummer was… which is suuuper loud. these days, playing drums without hearing protection (i don’t do it regularly, if at all) for me literally brings pain to my ears, and i don’t understand how musicians played live with such loud playing environments and loud instruments without being in constant pain. think beatles shows, cream shows, any rock show being onstage with a drummer.
I don't, I'm 68. Used those things in my avatar for years and still do when I can. I know plenty of old guys with no hearing problems. Huh?![]()
As a player and FOH / Monitor guy for decades, I always plugged or wore shields when not working, a move from my day gig, and it really paid off.