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How do you get your Sound Guy to look up

Just that the thread is about distracted operators a bit more distant at the house position.

Not trying to make waves. No offense intended. :)

Well, rather than get hung up on specifics like title and location, I think it's safe to say that, whoever is responsible for the monitor mix, if he's at the board and conscious, a simple "Yo Fred, a little more 'xxx' in this monitor please," or a little sign language, has always done the trick and never spoiled the show or made anyone look like a douche IME.

However, if the sound engineer responsible for monitors is incommunicado, then, like Jimmy said, you're SOL. Grin and bear it, and maybe chat about it between sets.

I remember certain sound guys who had a distinct "set it and forget it" attitude, and they would walk away from the console to go have a smoke and scam for babes during the set. Nothing you can do about that one during the set, short of being a douche.
 
A soundman that does that is indeed a problem.

Indeed. One club in particular that had us on the rotation, we were ready to pull our hair out. Sound/monitor guy would wander every time we played there. We tried to ask nice without pissing him off, but he was just there for the party evidently. Finally had to put a bug in the club owner's ear; from then on he was good as gold, at his post and alert throughout the show.
 
Even works if he passed out:
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I built a four channel wireless alert system out of some Linear wireless security parts and some old stomp boxes and a single space rack panel. Worked great and required no wires other than a power supply at the receiver location. The transmitter ran off of 9V batteries. It's probably still buried somewhere around here. Incidenally, the first incarnation of it used a single open mic channel and four paralleled switches. It worked well, but you couldn't tell who pressed it and it was difficult to implement on unknown stages. The problem with the original idea is that unless your using it with your own people, when you start handing it out on one offs to whichever tech, your basically telling them that you're presuming they're not going to be doing their job. It doesn't always go over so well.

I also built a wireless mute that I could keep up by my mic to mute the pre amp when i wanted to tune, without having to run back to the rack, based on the same design.
 
This is what I am saying, because you are listening, you are not always looking and it isn't because your not doing what your supposed to..
I have this system where each of the 4 people in front (we are all singers) have an indicator push button. Push the button and a tiny LED flashes back by the board. 4 singers 4 color lights. Sound guy knows instantly who to look at and figure out what they need. Simple solution for band and FOH. In our case, most everything gets worked out in the first couple of songs and the rest of the night they sit, but they certainly come in handy. No announcing it through the mic or doing arobics on stage to get FOH attention. Push a little momentary switch, light comes on back by the board and bobs your uncle, you get what you need. Attention from FOH..

I'm a sound guy and perfectly understand where you point at. I think this is a great idea. What the guys on stage don't understand oftenly is that we have lots of issues we take care of at the board and not only the demanding player in question. So we can be destracted by another problem taking care of it while the musician struggles to get our attention. Great idea, I'm interested in your idea.
 
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...we have since ditched our in-ears (most certainly not my idea or my wish)..
wait, what?

why did that happen? and why couldn't you keep yours at least?

(or was it a situation where everybody didn't have their own mix, in which case i'd have ditched 'em too?)
 
I'm a sound guy and perfectly understand where you point at. I think this is a great idea. What the guys on stage don't understand oftenly is that we have lots of issues we take care of at the board and not only the demanding player in question. So we can be destracted by another problem taking care of it while the musician struggles to get our attention. Great idea, I'm interested in your idea.
Perfectly understandable, but just like how when you drive a car you should glance at your rear view mirrors every 3-4 seconds, it would be better for everyone involved if sound folk did the same with the band. To be fair, most sound techs I know do pretty well about looking up semi-often.
 
Wow, that's pro. It would get you ejected anywhere i've ever worked. And your gear tossed in the street with you.
The guy didn't know what he was doing and he was the drummer's buddy and we were paying him and owned everything and the only thing you could hear out of the mains was the drums. The guy was a jerk anyway. This was back in 1991. Things got little crazier back then.
 
Yeah, I think this is the best way to do things. I believe the same thing we can do to dumb musicians, we go on stage and through the amp or whatever at hand in that moment....at him.

You are a truly example to follow.
Not quite understanding what you are trying to write. Are you trying to say, that you go on the stage and throw an amp at a musician or whatever is at hand.
 

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