when people sweat me about my general knowledge or skill level I hit them with some weird free form jazz stuff I learned by ear, then they understand that I'm into different stuff and ways of learning, then we laugh and figure out a middle ground
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Well, for starters, it's the saddest key of all. If you don't know Dm, then you can't jam with me on Lick My Love Pump.
I play with a 50/50 mix of trained musicians and artistic savants who barely know the names of the strings. All I am concerned about assessing is:
1. Are the riffs awesome?
2. Is this in the pocket?
1. Are the riffs awesome?
2. Is this in the pocket?
For me it would all depend on the situation.. and the person.. I would not be willing to invest a lot of time in it though.. because my time is precious to me.. and limited..
Sure, but my point wasn't to trash her -- hers was the first video that came to mind where I knew it had tons of views and tons of dislikes.
Well, entertaining for a few seconds and I guess it is a good "teen-appreciated" spoof on death metal voicing. OK, hurrah for her 5 minutes of fame.
I really did LOL.
And she is cute enough so that I'd rather see her with Robert Palmer and see how she might fit into this:
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Damn! I just derailed my own thread.
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Yes, the thing is with jams, that people shows up that doesn't know Dm but still THINK they can jam. The part of your thing above, is that I can YELL OUT chords to the gtrd as we go along if he doesn't know the chords and tag along and get it basically on the second verse. Then it's most crucial that ANYONE in the band can react to yell out keys and chords throughout the song, and by the second verse/refrain they'll get it. I e that you can cue people.
You can't cue clueless people.
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These days, most rehearsal spaces has internet connections too, and wireless. So we have this computer hooked up to a projector on a shelf high up, that lights up the other wall end of the rehearsal space and it's 3-4 meters wide. We hook up to the internet, shows a song lyrics (people ALWAYS forgets lyrics at jams) and with the chords underneath it and jam along. If there's someone who hasn't heard it, we just swap tabs inside any browser and connect to iTunes, Spotify, or YouTube to play the first round for the novice, and they'll go "uh uh"... and get the general vibe tempo and flow from the song. The we threw ourselves headlong into it. Of course, it's mostly cover type stuff short songs, and no long form progressive stuff, with changes and polyrhythms. This is better than the singer headdiving into their small cellphones while singing a text. And for jazz, all fakebooks are online anyway..so we just bring them up on that whyteboard.
So true.
While I have been playing bass for almost 30 years, I still try to make sure to always gig with people that are better than me. That takes most of the pain away from being on the road and makes sure I learn new stuff constantly.
Now, what they say about me is another story...
It's funny. Most people that have asked me to be in their band, it hasn't been mutual. I e when some stranger shows up after a gig, and ask me to be in their band without having heard any of them. When I checked them out ... it's almost always...meh... one seems to be some kind of magnet to those with lesser skills. No one with better skills than me has ever never came up to me and asked me to play for them either, and vice versa. I know my limits and limitations and won't force my lesser skills upon someone elses band provided that I've detected that they're superior to me. It has to do with rehearsing. If it takes longer time for me to hone it, than the others they'll know that I am going to drag them down and it's a large speed bump in their road. My forte lies in the stamina, session on ends without getting fatigued, and the musical memory to learn fast. If it's "regular covers", by the second verse or the repeats in any song, I can mostly stop looking at the charts, lyrics with chords, and have memorized it. With jazz tunes, it's mostly form and codas and 1st 2nd repeats that has different chords, and so on... YMMV.
But I still find it peculiar why people who have the DK-syndrome always asks the ones with MUCH better skills to partake in their projects. I think it all boils down to that whenever they hear someone else playing - at their own level - they don't think it's worth listening to, or playing with. Cognitive bias, and it's basically called the Ikea Effect.
But I still find it peculiar why people who have the DK-syndrome always asks the ones with MUCH better skills to partake in their projects. I think it all boils down to that whenever they hear someone else playing - at their own level - they don't think it's worth listening to, or playing with. Cognitive bias, and it's basically called the Ikea Effect.
At a jam, well, everyone brings what they got. Some obviously bring more to the table than others. I'll sit in ... for a while ... maybe (and likely not return). Worse, IMO, is when someone in the jam group says "hey, we should form a band". That's my cue ... exit stage left. I much prefer to jam with people I know and who have some smattering of musical knowledge. We get together at a friend's large house and have bimonthly "kitchen pickin'" sessions. Usually about 10 seasoned, knowledgable semi-pros (all have actively gigging projects). A little music, some pizza, a few brews and "whatever", swapping gig stories, introducing new songs still wet behind the ears. No competition, no pressure, no poaching (grin!).
IKEA effect - Wikipedia
Substitute the word furniture with music/playing, and you're off to go.
"They fall in love with their IKEA creations. Even when there are parts missing and the items are incorrectly built, customers in the IKEA study still loved the fruits of their labors. And automatically thinks that other thinks it too."
While this is nothing new, everyone is proud of their work of course, but they not only think that it's better than anyone elses creations, the main difference is that they think others will think the same about their own work, although it looks, and finishes the same or way worse.
Never heard that expression before - and I'm Swede, living with my Billy bookshelves an all...
Thanks!
