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How Gnarly will my Tone Be? *SUNN Content

Use matching cabs. Whatever cab you run the Lead into, get the same cab for the Slave. To avoid phasing issues. 15s or 10s with the Concerts sound great, depends mostly on the cab and less on the speakers. The 215B is excellent, so is an SVT 810. One is ported, one is sealed.
 
Use matching cabs. Whatever cab you run the Lead into, get the same cab for the Slave. To avoid phasing issues. 15s or 10s with the Concerts sound great, depends mostly on the cab and less on the speakers. The 215B is excellent, so is an SVT 810. One is ported, one is sealed.
Cool, cool. Would you have any recommendations considering I'll be playing a little bit faster stuff and don't want to get totally lost in a fuzzy, muddy wall of bass?
Theres a slanted Ampeg 4x10 cab for sale for pretty cheap. Thinking maybe pair that with a regular 4x10?
 
Nah, it's gotta complete match. Get the exact same model that you have already. If it's a 410HLF I'd considering swapping for something else though because those cabs are known to be muddy. Honestly the same cabs as Dixie, which are side ported EV loaded Sunn and Mesa cabs and anything else with the same design and dimensions he's been able to get his hands on would be perfect. Not entirely sure about his speakers. Other users could suggest better 15" speakers but old EVs sound great to me. Then again I've been happy with the same 8x10 cab for a few years now. So I like old 70's speakers that don't have the highest handling power or sensitivity. There's a certain midrange growl that those cabs and speakers have that's perfect for lots of distortion and cutting low mids.
 
Nah, it's gotta complete match. Get the exact same model that you have already. If it's a 410HLF I'd considering swapping for something else though because those cabs are known to be muddy. Honestly the same cabs as Dixie, which are side ported EV loaded Sunn and Mesa cabs and anything else with the same design and dimensions he's been able to get his hands on would be perfect. Not entirely sure about his speakers. Other users could suggest better 15" speakers but old EVs sound great to me. Then again I've been happy with the same 8x10 cab for a few years now. So I like old 70's speakers that don't have the highest handling power or sensitivity. There's a certain midrange growl that those cabs and speakers have that's perfect for lots of distortion and cutting low mids.
Right now I just have the Mesa Diesel 2x15. I don't think I'll find a match to that anytime soon. Any recommendations for a different pair?
 
You might get phase cancellation at some frequency with two different cabs but at least you wont be obliterating the 15" speakers that wont be able to keep up with an 8x10 at higher volumes. This is the reason why 4x10 and 1x15 full stacks are frowned upon. The typical single 15" speaker cab doesn't have nearly as much handling or sensitivity as a stypical 4x10.
 
You might get phase cancellation at some frequency with two different cabs but at least you wont be obliterating the 15" speakers that wont be able to keep up with an 8x10 at higher volumes. This is the reason why 4x10 and 1x15 full stacks are frowned upon. The typical single 15" speaker cab doesn't have nearly as much handling or sensitivity as a stypical 4x10.
How do you think the Lead would drive an 8x10 on its own? Could always rock two! :eek:
 
It would do a great job. From time to time when I've had Concert Leads they always doubled for bass duty and were just crushing through 8x10s.

If you're thinking about trying to run one of those amps with two 8x10 cabs at 2 ohms. Don't. They don't handle actually 2 ohms and if they even ever did (they're rated for it in catalogs) it's just not stable anymore. But if you're talking about an 8x10 for each head. Please do. Post results.
 
It would do a great job. From time to time when I've had Concert Leads they always doubled for bass duty and were just crushing through 8x10s.

If you're thinking about trying to run one of those amps with two 8x10 cabs at 2 ohms. Don't. They don't handle actually 2 ohms and if they even ever did (they're rated for it in catalogs) it's just not stable anymore. But if you're talking about an 8x10 for each head. Please do. Post results.
Well, I was thinking... Like you said, if I got the slave, I could do the 8x10/2x15 combo with a little trouble, but it'd work. Then when I had enough cash for another 8x10, go double 8x10. One going to the Lead, the other to the Slave.
 
Yes. A Concert lead was rated 200 watts @ 2 ohms. At 4 ohms it's ~160 watts, into distortion you're pushing 200 watts again easily. Through an 8x10 with its massive speaker area you should be able to do plenty of hearing damage.
 
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Yes. A Concert lead was rated 200 watts @ 2 ohms. At 4 ohms it's ~160 watts, into distortion you're pushing 200 watts again easily. Through an 8x10 with its massive speaker area you should be able to do plenty of hearing damage.
"Everything louder than everything else." :bassist:

You hear the new Weedeater track? Still not a mega fan, but I'm really diggin' Dixie's vocals on this one more than on the previous albums. Of course, the tunes are low and heavy as all hell!!!
 
Yes. A Concert lead was rated 200 watts @ 2 ohms. At 4 ohms it's ~160 watts, into distortion you're pushing 200 watts again easily. Through an 8x10 with its massive speaker area you should be able to do plenty of hearing damage.
Hmm, do you think using two 4x10s with the Lead/Slave would be good? Dual 8x10s would be super cool, but not totally practical right now, haha. I was just thinking could probably sell my old amp and pick up two cheaper brand (Traynor, Peavey) 410s right away.