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How Important Is Music /Live Music Today

Couldn't agree more.




Don't feel sorry for us....we still have Phish, Furthur, Umphrey's McGee, etc. Heck, I just saw Page McConnell with the Meters recently for $25 and that blew my socks off!

Good music is not dead.

:bassist:

Cool that you are listening to real music but all of the youngsters in my area liten to BOOOM BOOM BOOM thru their cars speakers as loud as it will go on my street. Damn kids...quite down for God's sake :p
 
Agreed, but there's not much popular music today that isn't pop bubblegum crap.

Really? The Billboard 200 this week shows me, just to name a few:

Black Sabbath

Daft Punk

Boards of Canada

Queens of the Stone Age

Macklemore and Ryan Lewis

Jimmy Eat World

Jason Isbell

Alice in Chains

Megadeth

and that's just in the very top of the list.
 
If you regard music purely as a form of entertainment, then music is clearly less important than it was 20 or more years ago. There are simply far more forms of entertainment that are vying for people's attention. 20 years ago who comprehended the notion of a home theater? It was still a pretty novel concept, and if someone got a surround sound system at their home it was something of a big deal.

Then there's gaming. Video gaming has exploded into an enormous industry since the late 1990's. And it targets a young audience that had been traditionally focused on music as a prime form of entertainment.

And the internet? Add yet another form of information and entertainment that is also vying for time, attention and money. The internet has been a boon to music in terms of making music much easier to obtain, but it has done the same for media that compete with music as well, and brought about other new forms of entertainment.

As for live music? That seems to be the one avenue that continues to be profitable for artists. Because music sales revenue has collapsed. Still, the experience of seeing a band perform live is something unique unto itself. And people still want to take part in that communal experience of a live show.
 
Really? The Billboard 200 this week shows me, just to name a few:

Black Sabbath

Daft Punk

Boards of Canada

Queens of the Stone Age

Macklemore and Ryan Lewis

Jimmy Eat World

Jason Isbell

Alice in Chains

Megadeth

and that's just in the very top of the list.

..and that's fine. I don't think anything in that list will be revered or remembered in 20-30 years, but at least some bands in the Billboard charts actually play guitars. Most of those bands are way past their prime.
 
Most of the music of the 60's and 70's was NOT about the current events of the day. Most of the music of the 60's and 70's was about the same topics as the 40's, 50's, 80's, 90's, etc.: the ups of love, the downs of love, non-love aspects of everyday life, and party music urging one to shake, rattle, roll, rock, shimmy, boogaloo, etc.

+1. We youngsters (and, uh, sorta-youngsters) forget that most of what we hear from that era and associate with political meaningfulness is the wheat; the chaff is long-forgotten or tossed off as not indicative of the "good" stuff of the era.

(edit: obviously, there's plenty of "wheat" from that era that wasn't "meaningful" in the poltical sense we're that I think sparked this thread--the Beach Boys come to mind. Not political at all, but is anyone here going to call them irrelevant pabulum? Nope.)

The fact that there was a constant musical background to life - as there is now - caused the listeners to associate certain songs with certain current events.

I think part of it, too, is that there are more causes, more stuff that can be sung about to a bigger, more diverse crowd. There's not one big, overarching thing that we all unite for or against. Maybe LGBT civil rights, or something, but there's so much going on, so much that wants our attention, that an entire industry or even just a genre can't focus on it all. Or, they focus on an issue and become pigeonholed as "the band who's really into wind power" or whatever.

IMHO (note, I said "IMHO"), that is no more or less prevalent now than it was "in the day". If anything, some of the more intelligent rap & hiphop speaks more directly to social issues today than did the songs of the 60's. (Reminder: that's IMHO.)

It's my HO, too. Even when rap is at its most vapid, it speaks to a social situation (materialism, rags-to-riches), and it's generally consistent. And when it goes into more philosophical areas then it's the most relevant social music there is. (Check out the Notorious B.I.G.'s "Things Done Changed." If that's not hip hop's "The Times They are a-Changing," nothing is.)

Side note: Those of you on here calling rap//hiphop "boom-thwack non-musical garbage" or whatever, yeah, I hope that ignorance about the most relevant musical movement in the last 25 years has been working out for you. :rollno: Crap music exists everywhere, in every genre. So does genius.
 
I listen to a small amount of hip-hop at home..somehow..someone believes in some of it enough to record and broadcast it, so there must be some numbers to support it or it would be strictly and underground phenomenon.

I generally find the lyrics distateful and vocal range to be about 6 notes max with some 'urban yodeling' at the end of each phrase sometimes.

The boom thing in car audio is annoying whether in traffic or when one drives by..because you can't get away from it..the bass notes are so large.. they travel greater distances, but all I hear is the BOOM...BB BOOOOOM..BOOM..BB BOOOOM as they drive by. Seems like someone has some insecurity issues or they wouldn't need such an 'attraction getter'.

It just isn't cool..What is cool is stealth... a loud system that ISN'T heard ourtside your vehicle.

I play bass ..hip-hop isn't bass..it's BOOOOMMM.
 
In my area, life music has decreased a lot since the seventies.
Sure, in bigger cities, you can choose from different concerts every night, but in the more remote areas there's less and less. Concerts get more expensive as well.
I try to visit every concert close to me, mainly to support the few clubs still hosting bands. On private venues, the local DJ ripoff that comes with a laptop loaded with hundreds of gigabytes of downloaded music has taken the stage, putting real DJs to shame.
 
In my area, life music has decreased a lot since the seventies.
Sure, in bigger cities, you can choose from different concerts every night, but in the more remote areas there's less and less. Concerts get more expensive as well.
I try to visit every concert close to me, mainly to support the few clubs still hosting bands. On private venues, the local DJ ripoff that comes with a laptop loaded with hundreds of gigabytes of downloaded music has taken the stage, putting real DJs to shame.

That's interesting, and something I often forget, having lived in several major cities over the last ~15 years. Venues close here all the time, but new ones spring up, and the scene is ripe for house parties, busking, and whatnot.

I don't think I'm alone in being a city-based player and taking for granted that there are places to play and to see good, especially original and good, music. Not to mention the privilege of being able to see a lot of stuff cheaply.

In areas like yours, what has taken music's place as the "important" thing to do?
 
Live music importance is relative to the technology we use to listen to recorded music.

When you had an album it was a memory in it self, a few songs were listened to at a time start to finish, interaction with the physical medium, connection with the band inherent. Record labels were very open minded back then. Without Video the beautiful ugly musicians were heard. Labels developed bands on small tours to larger ones, introduced singles before entire albums were invested in. Home audio and video was primitive and gas was cheap so live music was worth it.

From the needle drop to hearing chipmunks while fast forwarding tape, to seeking the track, to spinning a virtual wheel through thousands of albums the supply of our demand as consumers dictated a need for efficiency. Efficiency and catering to not opening one's mind to listen through music that is not liked at first. Think of how many albums you didn't like, at first. Then they grew on you, or the fact that you had the CD a friend focused your attention to something specific.

CD's brought a level of whole albums listened to but gave the speed of track selection to the user. 100 feet back I see it as conditioning to chose your favorites. Consumers still knew the album in its entirety with the advent of multi CD players...for the most part one album at a time. Music labels now focus on a larger investment, target markets with types of genres for a total return of investment across the label. Labels at this point have conglomerated to less than 20 majors. Pop music is changed forever with fabricated groups polished to the specs of market research. Instead of showing a wide variety for the consumer to give sales feedback, labels have determined what to give the audience to keep sales up with far less focus on longevity of a given group. "Telling" the consumer what is popular by saturation, selection, and depletion of a lot of similar groups...(hair metal, boy bands, Grunge, Nu-metal)

The technology created by musicians for musicians - mastering compression, autotune/ pitch correction, Digital recording, consumer playback audio, etc. accelerated the change.

iPod generation - No Memory, no exchange with a physical medium - album art is dying. Multiple albums split by track multiply exponentially. No connection with a band just the product of the band with thousands of others. I see it as consumers demand for what is good for them at that moment. Albums are recorded for less and less with Singles being sold or given for free ultimately the value is reduced to less than nothing...It is now the free market of recorded music. The computer speakers we can buy for $50, with tracks engineered to sound good played from anything, car audio at an all time high, and cost of transportation also at an all time high. Since the late 80's bands realized it is cheaper to rent your equipment for each show than truck your own, Volume/ SPL has gotten tamed with cleaner Pro audio/ education in acoustics: The investment for live music by cost has been unfavorable for quite some time. Bands don't tour, it costs too dang much... The musician changed the delivery and now proves the value to the label with likes, shares, and direct return of investment data. Non musicians percieve the devalue of music in recorded form, and no longer rely on going out to get music. One can watch every recorded concert since 1970 on youtube, pull up a track for free, look up a band and socially stamp themselves with said band by sharing it.

It is important to the remaining generation of musicians not the masses. Everybody that plays needs to make instruments cool again.
 
Live music importance is relative to the technology we use to listen to recorded music.

When you had an album it was a memory in it self, a few songs were listened to at a time start to finish, interaction with the physical medium, connection with the band inherent. Record labels were very open minded back then. Without Video the beautiful ugly musicians were heard. Labels developed bands on small tours to larger ones, introduced singles before entire albums were invested in. Home audio and video was primitive and gas was cheap so live music was worth it.

From the needle drop to hearing chipmunks while fast forwarding tape, to seeking the track, to spinning a virtual wheel through thousands of albums the supply of our demand as consumers dictated a need for efficiency. Efficiency and catering to not opening one's mind to listen through music that is not liked at first. Think of how many albums you didn't like, at first. Then they grew on you, or the fact that you had the CD a friend focused your attention to something specific.

CD's brought a level of whole albums listened to but gave the speed of track selection to the user. 100 feet back I see it as conditioning to chose your favorites. Consumers still knew the album in its entirety with the advent of multi CD players...for the most part one album at a time. Music labels now focus on a larger investment, target markets with types of genres for a total return of investment across the label. Labels at this point have conglomerated to less than 20 majors. Pop music is changed forever with fabricated groups polished to the specs of market research. Instead of showing a wide variety for the consumer to give sales feedback, labels have determined what to give the audience to keep sales up with far less focus on longevity of a given group. "Telling" the consumer what is popular by saturation, selection, and depletion of a lot of similar groups...(hair metal, boy bands, Grunge, Nu-metal)

The technology created by musicians for musicians - mastering compression, autotune/ pitch correction, Digital recording, consumer playback audio, etc. accelerated the change.

iPod generation - No Memory, no exchange with a physical medium - album art is dying. Multiple albums split by track multiply exponentially. No connection with a band just the product of the band with thousands of others. I see it as consumers demand for what is good for them at that moment. Albums are recorded for less and less with Singles being sold or given for free ultimately the value is reduced to less than nothing...It is now the free market of recorded music. The computer speakers we can buy for $50, with tracks engineered to sound good played from anything, car audio at an all time high, and cost of transportation also at an all time high. Since the late 80's bands realized it is cheaper to rent your equipment for each show than truck your own, Volume/ SPL has gotten tamed with cleaner Pro audio/ education in acoustics: The investment for live music by cost has been unfavorable for quite some time. Bands don't tour, it costs too dang much... The musician changed the delivery and now proves the value to the label with likes, shares, and direct return of investment data. Non musicians percieve the devalue of music in recorded form, and no longer rely on going out to get music. One can watch every recorded concert since 1970 on youtube, pull up a track for free, look up a band and socially stamp themselves with said band by sharing it.

It is important to the remaining generation of musicians not the masses. Everybody that plays needs to make instruments cool again.

Nice!

Blue
 
Live music is the only way a lot of artists get paid these days. A lot artists even majors give away their music for free on hopes it'll bait people into a live show. It along with the ringtone is probably the only reason the music industry is still alive, although only a shell of its former self.