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How many watss to gig with?
- Thread starter magic8161
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I would never do a gig with less than 25w.
The 350 would be a great amp for the lower power cabs you have. Genzler amps are fantastic.
Good choice for sure. I bet it can fart out the 110 if lows are pushed. As always the ears are the final arbiter.
Pick up a Broughton always-on HPF to protect your speakers and get about 3db more loudness (like adding a third cab).
Check out my HPF/LPF Wiki for more info.
Check out my HPF/LPF Wiki for more info.
Good idea there.
I'd like to get one of those. Is there a distributor in Australia or do we need to buy direct from USA?
Josh ships internationally from Canada: https://www.broughtonaudio.com/product-page/always-on-high-pass-filter
I have one and it works great. It's really tiny so it can sit on top of your amp. There's no foot switch. Not battery operated so purchasing a power supply is necessary.
Did I miss how many ohms are the cabs?
Not many amps will let you mix and match a 4 ohm and 8 ohm cab ...
Not many amps will let you mix and match a 4 ohm and 8 ohm cab ...
Lol. Lots of replies and not one question about OP's application.
OP - what kind of gigs will you use this amp for? What are the other instruments? Will there be a PA? Will bass be run through the PA?
OP - what kind of gigs will you use this amp for? What are the other instruments? Will there be a PA? Will bass be run through the PA?
I may have missed it but did he answer Basscooker's at post#8 about what his playing situation was? We all know some bands start out relatively quiet and when they get their groove going things have a tendency to get louder. (secretly everybody gradually increase tweaking or playing a little harder on the downlow). Yeah I've done it.
The Genzler MG350 does. It goes to 2.67 Ohm. One 4 Ohm and One 8 Ohm. (Or three 8 Ohm cabs for that matter)
Your questions are highly relevant.
The question is how loud do you need to be.
I mean, you could just get any Class D head that delivers 500-600 watts (make sure those are true ratings and not wishful thinking). This will pump more than your cabs can handle, so it will not be your bottleneck.
You will have to watch out not to break your cabs, though.
The size and weight of a rig is decided with the cabs.
I've had a long, hard look at the Elf. Multiple times. I wanted one. Why? No Idea.
My Tonehammer has more watts, weighs next to nothing and fits into the front pocket of my gigbag.
That's what always kept me from buying one. Sure it's tiny. But does that mean my current head is too big? Nope. It fits into the gigbag. With the gigbag on my shoulders, I cannot tell whether the amp is in it or not. The difference is too small.
I mean, you could just get any Class D head that delivers 500-600 watts (make sure those are true ratings and not wishful thinking). This will pump more than your cabs can handle, so it will not be your bottleneck.
You will have to watch out not to break your cabs, though.
The size and weight of a rig is decided with the cabs.
I've had a long, hard look at the Elf. Multiple times. I wanted one. Why? No Idea.
My Tonehammer has more watts, weighs next to nothing and fits into the front pocket of my gigbag.
That's what always kept me from buying one. Sure it's tiny. But does that mean my current head is too big? Nope. It fits into the gigbag. With the gigbag on my shoulders, I cannot tell whether the amp is in it or not. The difference is too small.
Because if he has no FOH support and is playing bigger venues with a loud drummer you'd advise a higher powered amp? With his cabs...
Sometimes the gear already on hand (which may not necessarily be the case here, but that info was given later) is the limiting factor.
And cautions around the limitations of such a rig have been mentioned. In this thread... and the other one.
500 watts. Sweet spot for me. Any situation, any application, any musical style. The volume knob determines what I need to bring and I’ve got the headroom needed. If that’s not enough power I’m out of my league.
Scalable rigs are so popular because rig power requirements changes drastically venue to venue, band to band, genre to genre, and setting to setting.
I've been told to turn a 160watt 2x10 combo down in a very large room with a high ceiling and fabric covered walls, and I've run pretty hot on an 1800watt rack setup in a small venue that didn't have sub support sufficient for bass and kick at the same time.
A low watt amp with small cabs is great for personal monitoring while running signal to FOH, but the band you're playing with should be ready to provide a PA that can handle low end if the venue can not.
As with most things: it depends.
I've been told to turn a 160watt 2x10 combo down in a very large room with a high ceiling and fabric covered walls, and I've run pretty hot on an 1800watt rack setup in a small venue that didn't have sub support sufficient for bass and kick at the same time.
A low watt amp with small cabs is great for personal monitoring while running signal to FOH, but the band you're playing with should be ready to provide a PA that can handle low end if the venue can not.
As with most things: it depends.
Have you considered getting another elf 1x10? That seems like it would fit the bill better than the 2x8 and you have more options (1 vs 2 cabs).
I’ve gigged with 30W, 800W, and a lot of places in between. Depends a lot on the gig, really. I’m happy with 400 right now, and can add a cab to get 800 if I need more headroom.
With 30W, you will likely need PA support, some really efficient cabs, or need to be playing a smaller gig...or love to play with a distorted tone. But it’s possible.
With 30W, you will likely need PA support, some really efficient cabs, or need to be playing a smaller gig...or love to play with a distorted tone. But it’s possible.
