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How much are MIJ Squier Basses really worth?

Or half the price of what people pay for a nearly identical Fullerton Vintage Reissue from the same time made from 3-5 pieces of ash or alder. Different perspective...

Well...bought and played a bunch of JVs along with AVRIs when they first came out and ran them "head to head" on a zillion occasions...the way I saw it then, and still do:

JVs were excellent instruments for the money and then some. Fit and finish could put a lot of late 70s Fenders to shame. Immensely playable as well.

AVRIs were excellent instruments period. I was not equally impressed with all of them, but then again I was not equally impressed by all the pre-CBS Fenders that I've sampled either.

As for 1500 quid for a JV...I fully understand that the world has gone insane and that anything and everything that can carry a "vintage" label is now being offered as the next "up and coming" collectors item. These are nice basses but not that nice. I feel the same way about people asking $3-4K for their late 70s Fenders or Gibsons.

My bass-playing-son is somewhat of a P-bass guy and when the time for his next bass comes I wouldn't mind getting him a '57 JV if it were $700 or so and in great shape. Any more than that and he's getting an AVRI or a CS if one pops up at the right price at the right time.

My $0.02 only...
 
Well...bought and played a bunch of JVs along with AVRIs when they first came out and ran them "head to head" on a zillion occasions...the way I saw it then, and still do:

JVs were excellent instruments for the money and then some. Fit and finish could put a lot of late 70s Fenders to shame. Immensely playable as well.

AVRIs were excellent instruments period. I was not equally impressed with all of them, but then again I was not equally impressed by all the pre-CBS Fenders that I've sampled either.

As for 1500 quid for a JV...I fully understand that the world has gone insane and that anything and everything that can carry a "vintage" label is now being offered as the next "up and coming" collectors item. These are nice basses but not that nice. I feel the same way about people asking $3-4K for their late 70s Fenders or Gibsons.

My bass-playing-son is somewhat of a P-bass guy and when the time for his next bass comes I wouldn't mind getting him a '57 JV if it were $700 or so and in great shape. Any more than that and he's getting an AVRI or a CS if one pops up at the right price at the right time.

My $0.02 only...
Agree. But you kind of ignored that we were debating a very special JV and one that is way below 1.500,-. This is one you 100% never played when they first came out. I agree with you about the average export JVs.
 
Agree. But you kind of ignored that we were debating a very special JV and one that is way below 1.500,-. This is one you 100% never played when they first came out. I agree with you about the average export JVs.

With no disrespect intended, you have absolutely no idea what I did or did not play over the past 40 years of being around basses. The reverse also holds true, by all means.

This thread was started discussing folks asking 1500GBP for their JVs, and that's where my comparison came in. The bass from the German forum entered the discussion a good deal later.
 
With no disrespect intended, you have absolutely no idea what I did or did not play over the past 40 years of being around basses. The reverse also holds true, by all means.

This thread was started discussing folks asking 1500GBP for their JVs, and that's where my comparison came in. The bass from the German forum entered the discussion a good deal later.

No problem whatsoever, I just assumed that it is statistically unlikely that you played bass in Japan in 1982:-) Unlikely doesn't mean impossible...
 
What do you see?

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Since that bass from Germany keeps getting brought up, it is a perfect example of someone trying to capitalize on the perceived value of JV’s.

I’m sure that it is a Japanese Fender, but it is not a JV.

You're wrong - but I admit it can be confusing. There were domestic JV instruments with a full Fender logo and nitro finish.
As you see watching the date at the neck, it is from August 23 1983. There were only JVs, maybe the first SQs back then.

The first Strats made in Japan by Fender were vintage reissue ’57 and ’62 replicas, launched in Tokyo on Friday 7th May 1982. The new line of instruments, produced by FujiGen Gakki, featured serial numbers beginning with the letters JV, and they’re accordingly known as the JV series. From the start, there were multiple variants of the JV vintage reissues, serving different price points. Among the variables were the type of finish (either polyester or nitro-cellulose), the body woods, and the neck profiles. Initially, all carried the USA-made pickups for which these early JV series guitars have become renowned, but other parts – scratchplates for instance – could be American on the most expensive variant, but Japanese on the cheapest.

The first wave of JV series Strats intended for the Japanese market carried full Fender branding. That is, a Fender ‘spaghetti’ logo on the headstock and no reference to the Squier marque at all.
The Truth About... 1980s Squier Strats | Planet Botch

The entire blog entry is interesting for those, interested in MIJ Fender instruments and the JV Squiers.

On edit: what makes me a bit suspicious is the neck. '83 is a bit late for a JV with a full Fender logo without even a small made in japan underneath. I've never seen a Fender nitro JV in person. But the neck looks exactly like the Fender Japan models being build much later. So maybe you're onto something... On the other hand, the more recent MIJ instruments have the serial number underneath the made in Japan on the back of the neck.
 
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You're wrong - but I admit it can be confusing. There were domestic JV instruments with a full Fender logo and nitro finish.
As you see watching the date at the neck, it is from August 23 1983. There were only JVs, maybe the first SQs back then.


The Truth About... 1980s Squier Strats | Planet Botch

The entire blog entry is interesting for those, interested in MIJ Fender instruments and the JV Squiers.

I’ve read that before and just about everything else there is to read about JV’s.

I’ll agree that you think that I am wrong. I will also believe that I am not.

That is not a real JV neckplate on that bass
 
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I’ve read that before and just about everything else there is to read about JV’s.

I’ll agree that you think that I am wrong. I will also believe that I am not.

That is not a real JV neckplate on that bass

I've edited my posting after you replied to it. What do you think is suspicious about the neckplate?
This is the one from my quite ordinary October 1982 JV:
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There used to be a thread on the old 21 frets forum about counterfeit JV neckplates.

Square J’s were a known counterfeit. Anyone can put a date on a neck with a pencil to match a neckplate.

If someone believes enough in it to pay $1275 for that bass then the seller and the buyer can both be happy.
 
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