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How TO Talk Your Drummer Into Controlling Tempo Better?

Anyone who has done this or seen it done, please tell me how it happened.

The drummer in my band is technically very good, has a great skill set for pop/rock.

However, he doesn't hear the music, and frequently speeds the tempo up to what I consider ridiculous speeds.

It's to the point where I hear the other musicians and vocalists having to alter their delivery because the tempo is so fast. For example, there is a nice bass solo in the middle of "Slow Ride (Foghat, long studio version). I really like the way it was recorded, very funky, and I can fairly nail it. Until the tempo goes into warp drive. That's when I have to improvise, and I'm not comfortable with the way it feels or sounds. I'd rather do a faithful cover of the original.

I sometimes hear our guitarist over-playing, and I used to think he was just showing off, but now I realize he too is frustrated and just blowing off steam.

Even without wrecking the solos or other players parts, it still sounds really bad to me and I'm sure some of our audience.

We have brought this up and discussed it at rehearsal. The lead singer said that she sometimes feels rushed, and we (drummer included) agreed to work on it.

I thought things were getting better, but at the last gig, we still rushed several songs. After one tune, I looked over at the drummer and (low enough so only he could hear me) said, "We were flying through that song." To which he responded, "Enjoy the flight!"

That little tidbit of sarcasm spoke volumes to me.

I really don't want to quit this band, the guitar player and lead singer are great, we have good P.A. support and no shortage of good gigs. The drummer is well-liked by the lead singer and owner of the P.A., so I don't think firing him is an option.

Have you ever seen anyone employ a method of talking a drummer out of that tendancy to rush through songs at 90 mph? Because I've spoke my mind already and it's almost to the point where I start looking elsewhere.
 
Sounds like he'd be happier playing more up tempo music. If he's conscious of the problem, yet he's not willing to correct it... he doesn't seem to care that much about the band. I'd tell him to hit the bricks.
 
Metronome is your friend, my friend.

We've done it, and we're SOOOO glad we've done it... our drummer had very bad tempo problems, he even screwed up our first EP recording because he wasn't able to keep the tempo. We just told him : "Hey, why don't we get a metronome? It would be easier to stay tight!" At first he was not too fond of the idea because he thought it was a lack of confidence in his skills... he soon realized he had no skills in keeping tempo... and drummers who can keep the tempo without a metronome are EXTREMELY rare. That said, some are worse than others, but with a metronome, you're sure you're not speeding up or slowing down... We've changed drummers since, but have continued using a metronome for rehearsals ... it sure helps when you're down to recording...

And FWIW (that surprised me a little) people seem to enjoy our songs more than before. Maybe tempo has nothing to do with it, but... well.

IMO : Metronome is the key.
 
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If it were a situation where the drummer doesn't know/can't tell his tempo isn't good... you might have to tread lightly, as to not offend.

BUT, since your drummer seems to know he's speeding up, and thus doing it intentionally, you can get away with significantly less tact. Get the whole band on your side, like an intervention, and just tell him straight up what everybody thinks. Is there a leader in your band, or is it a democracy? Either there the leader needs to put his/her foot down, or outvote the drummer.

Once you get the message across, if he still refuses to stop rushing, then there is a more deeply rooted arrogance issue that will most likely result in other future problems.


Amateurs rush.
 
Your drummer put developing chops ahead of developing meter. Like 90% of the drummers out there, lol. Meter is important, but for cover music especially so, I mean people know how these songs should feel. Have a sit down and chat about this fact, and then break out the metronome. If he is unwilling, dump him - firing someone is ALWAYS an option. People would rather hear dumbed-down covers that feel right, and they that they can dance to.
 
Our drummer has a red click light mounted to his snare, it strobes in time, you can set the speed of course. We have a cheat sheet with speeds for all the tunes we play. Makes us more solid and you do not have to remember the tempo of every song, some are only played twice a year. No Arguing over tempo!!! I will mention we are over 50 and have been playing since the dinosaurs roamed!
 
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The drummer in my band is technically very good...

...however, he doesn't hear the music, and frequently speeds the tempo up to what I consider ridiculous speeds.

It's to the point where I hear the other musicians and vocalists having to alter their delivery because the tempo is so fast.

I`m sorry, but if a drummer has tempo issues then he isn`t good at all.
 
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There are plenty of drummers who can keep a tempo without a metronome. It`s just a matter of finding a drummer who`s actually good at what they`re suppose to do.

Yep! I find that a good, working, pro drummer has no problem playing to, or without a metronome. That's what a good drummer does.

EVERY musician should practice to a metronome. Even a sax player can destroy a groove with bad time. The groove is dependent on every player in the band.