Would be interesting to get out pen & paper, design a cab using the same parameters, & compare it with the cab Claude designed.
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I asked AI to design a bass cab
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AI has no idea how these cabs sound though. It could get the numbers 'right' and still produce something of dubious musical value.
Sigh. Y’all just wantin The Terminator to happen.
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There are more parameters than just the numbers, for example there’s been no discussion of Q. Then there’s all the practical stuff…
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With ports like that, it will chuff like a steam locomotive at about 100 watts. It’s basically unusable.
It'd be nice if folks stopped feeding and using AI.
Freaking garbage....
Freaking garbage....
This bull
here is why some of us can't buy RAM anymore. 
here is why some of us can't buy RAM anymore. 
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This.
LLM’s are prediction models coded to be inherently agreeable to the user: as a result, they routinely fail at even rudimentary problem solving tasks.
There’s a video currently going around of a guy asking ChatGPT how to use a water glass that’s upside down…and ChatGPT telling him repeatedly that a container which is open on the bottom and sealed on top cannot possibly be used as a water glass
Over time, I'm sure the AI's will improve, for now, trust but verify.
If you really want to build a Bass Cab:
www.speakerhardware.com
Note, this is a lot harder than it looks, I know, I've done it.
If you really want to build a Bass Cab:
Product Details - Speaker Hardware
fEARul 12/6 is a full range, powerful Bass Guitar loudspeaker building kit. With quality speaker components Eminence, 18 Sound, Penn Elcom, you can build your cab Designed by greenboy for the DIY speaker builder. Easy construction, high performance
www.speakerhardware.com
Note, this is a lot harder than it looks, I know, I've done it.
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It’s easy to design a crappy cabinet, it’s difficult to design a really good cabinet.Over time, I'm sure the AI's will improve, for now, trust but verify.
If you really want to build a Bass Cab:
Product Details - Speaker Hardware
fEARul 12/6 is a full range, powerful Bass Guitar loudspeaker building kit. With quality speaker components Eminence, 18 Sound, Penn Elcom, you can build your cab Designed by greenboy for the DIY speaker builder. Easy construction, high performance
Note, this is a lot harder than it looks, I know, I've done it.
Obviously not, but why mindlessly give the predatory corporations what they want.
Can't speak for the op, but because of this thread I decided to take the AI plunge on this subject using Grok AI & Google Gemini AI.
For Grok all I asked was to design a front ported cabinet using two Eminence Deltalite 2515 speakers that will get me a sensitivity of 101db. Google Gemini I used the same requirements but added a LPad, crossover and Eminence APT-80 Tweeter. Both cab designs are tuned to 45hz. Grok used Python to run simulations for me as well. I didn't run any simulations in Gemini. Both used 3/4" Birch in their designs.
Grok designed a cab that was 36" tall x 24" wide x 18" deep, weight approx 75 - 85 lbs loaded (ouch)
Gemini designed a cab that was 38" tall x 21" wide x 15.75 deep, weight approx 72.3 lbs
That is external dimensions. Actual cut dimensions were also provided by both AIs as well.
For comparison, Mesa's Subway 215 is 34.37" tall x 19.25" wide x 19.5" deep and only weighs 60lbs
It was quite an interesting experiment to say the least. And I got a lot of data out of this. Now we just need a cab designer to look it over to see how accurate it is. But we don't have to worry about me building one, too heavy. And that doesn't include the added weight of handles, a grill, or something like duratex paint. Hey @agedhorse wanna take a look see, like we don't bother you enough as it is already
I'm going to post all the pages of data as thumbnails, Grok on a black background, 14 pages. And Gemini is on a white background, 10 pages. You'll definitely need to be on a decent monitor to scroll through these.
Grok(In Expert Mode):
Gemini:
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Wouldnt surprise me one bit if AI was already involved in some form in Cab and Amp design.
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Social media's idea of what AI is and what its capable of is likely a bit skewed by the very nature of Social Media where the user is the end product.
People often want to believe there's something essentially different about human thought, maybe consciousness, qualia, intentionality, or free will.
But "it's just pattern recognition" doesn't identify that difference, because it applies equally well (or equally poorly) to both humans and AI.
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Social media's idea of what AI is and what its capable of is likely a bit skewed by the very nature of Social Media where the user is the end product.
People often want to believe there's something essentially different about human thought, maybe consciousness, qualia, intentionality, or free will.
But "it's just pattern recognition" doesn't identify that difference, because it applies equally well (or equally poorly) to both humans and AI.
Nope.
That Genie is out of the bottle.
The horse is outta the barn.
(Continue the trend…..
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This thread was a cautionary tale not to waste time and resources feeding this AI delusion. You just raised the electricity bill for a bunch of people in rural towns already on fixed incomes.
Nope.
That Genie is out of the bottle.
The horse is outta the barn.
(Continue the trend…..
The next 36 months will be WILD
ASI by 2028? understanding recursive self-improvement
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