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I got to meet FLEA!

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Originally posted by StupidMatt



I unfortunatly cannot see Lauryn Hill in any good way. It's a shame though, she's a great singer but I have no respect for her. She said in an iterview that she would rather watch children starve than have a white person buy her albums. Well, this means she's either racist or has a true and deep hatred of children. It's a shame too, Amber (my girlfriend, white by the way) bought one of her albums.


OK, I was proven wrong about this statement. I didn't do any research on it. I never really bothered to think about if it was true or not. I just heard it from a few people, and usually people don't spread rumors about an interview, which is of course recorded evidence. I figured if it was "in an MTV interview" I hadn't see it. I have never thought, "OH BOY, a Lauryn Hill interview. Now that I think about it, I have never said, "Oh boy MTV." If she would have said anything racist, I never would have heard it. Sorry if I pissed off any of her fans, I didn't know.
 
Originally posted by tmo33
i still think the whole star mentality is ridiculous. If I had a bad day, I would be an a-hole for acting like some stars do. I have had horrible days at my retail job, and when the next customer comes in, I don't take it out on them. There is no reason to. I work in a guitar store, and often have headaches all day. But I don't take it out on my customers. They don't deserve that. People of status get too much slack. We say things like, "Theres a lot of pressure there. He can act like a jerk if he wants to." I respect that Flea may be going through a lot, but COME ON! I'm sorry you are tired from the traveling. But the money you are getting in for getting up on a stage and playing bass, and running around like you're crazy just makes My yearly salary look like pocket change. Niether the stars or we commoners have any less stressful lives than the other. Lets talk about giving some respect to everyone, unless they give you a reason not to.



This is very true. If someone at Wal*Mart would have asked me for help and I would have clearly shook my head no, I would have been fired. Well, I did tell off that loud obnoxious redneck and no one said anything to me?! Hmmm. And I made about six dollars an hour. How much does Flea make an hour when he's working? :rolleyes: :D
 
Originally posted by Brad Johnson
Try and imagine yourself in his shoes. Probably can't walk outside without a nonstop stream of fans who only want a moment of his time.
Oh, the horror! He can't walk outside without a stream of fans worshipping his very existance. How does he get out of bed every day?

Later posted by Brad
What exactly do some of you think is "owed" to you? Just curious.
What is "owed" to us? I don't think dhuffguitars was out-of-line at all. All the guy wanted was a scrap of paper with Flea's name on it. How much time does it take to scribble your name on something and thank the guy for being a fan, or buying your music, or watching your videos, or buying a ticket to see you live? In my mind, there are few things s***ier than meeting someone you idolize and having him turn out to be a grade-A, number 1 jerk. If I'd have been treated like dhuffguitars, I'd have taken all my Chili Peppers CDs to the used music store and sold 'em, then I'd have gone home and downloaded every last one of their songs for free off of WinMX (actually, I don't have any Chili Peppers CDs, because I'm not a Chili Peppers fan, but you get what I'm saying). The least Flea could have done if he was in a bad mood was close his dressing room door, so fans couldn't get at him to have their hopes and dreams ruined.

As I said earlier, at this point in my life, I'd give both my globes to be recognized at a nightclub or sporting event. I would be frickin' ecstatic to have someone come up to me and say, "I've heard your music and I think it's great. Hell, I think you're great. Can you sign my jacket for me?" Like Brian Johnson says during AC/DC's Behind The Music, "No matter how big you are, no one is above common courtesy."
 
Originally posted by Hategear
Oh, the horror! He can't walk outside without a stream of fans worshipping his very existance. How does he get out of bed every day?

Like I said, some people can empathize and others can't. The short-sightedness here isn't at all surprising, it just explains once again why some people don't get it.

Let's say he does have a steady stream of fans worshipping his very existance. Oh, the horror indeed! Multiply that by almost every day of his life, possibly all day long. Can't imagine that getting old, can you?

Try this little exercise and see if it makes a dent: Take some food that you love to eat. Now imagine that's your meal for the rest of your life. Imagine people shoving that in your face and you have to eat it, whether you want to or not. Day after day, from now on. Want to go to a movie? Sorry, you've got some eating to do and hundreds of people waiting to feed you your favorite meal. Want some privacy? Nah, have some more of this stuff you wanted so bad.

Every autograph seeker is not like DHuff. Some are downright nasty about it, as if they actually are owed something because they bought a CD or went to the show. Let's get real, how many go to a show to support an artist and how many go just because they wanted to and if they could've gotten in for free they would've been tickled pink?

What is "owed" to us? I don't think dhuffguitars was out-of-line at all.

I don't recall anyone saying he was. That wasn't the point.

All the guy wanted was a scrap of paper with Flea's name on it.

Multiply that by maybe the 300-400 (or more) other people who "only" want the same thing. Got a watch? Like to deal with that before you, as bassist, have to do a show? How about the same thing after a show?

How much time does it take to scribble your name on something and thank the guy for being a fan, or buying your music, or watching your videos, or buying a ticket to see you live?

If D was the only person asking, cool. Is that really what you think?:D. Again, got a watch?

In my mind, there are few things s***ier than meeting someone you idolize and having him turn out to be a grade-A, number 1 jerk.

That's your fault for idolizing another human being, not his.

If I'd have been treated like dhuffguitars, I'd have taken all my Chili Peppers CDs to the used music store and sold 'em, then I'd have gone home and downloaded every last one of their songs for free off of WinMX (actually, I don't have any Chili Peppers CDs, because I'm not a Chili Peppers fan, but you get what I'm saying).

That would definitely be the adult way to handle disappointment. Right?

Go ahead, sell them. They already got their money from you anyway, who did you think you were hurting?

The least Flea could have done if he was in a bad mood was close his dressing room door, so fans couldn't get at him to have their hopes and dreams ruined.

Were Dhuff's dreams ruined? Oh, the horror!

;)

I seriously doubt it. The funny thing is, celebs get this kind of drama on a regular basis. And most people probably don't think they're being overdramatic.

As I said earlier, at this point in my life, I'd give both my globes to be recognized at a nightclub or sporting event. I would be frickin' ecstatic to have someone come up to me and say, "I've heard your music and I think it's great. Hell, I think you're great. Can you sign my jacket for me?" Like Brian Johnson says during AC/DC's Behind The Music, "No matter how big you are, no one is above common courtesy."

Does that include fans?

Obviously you'd love to be famous. It's also fairly obvious that you haven't given much thought to what being that famous entails.
 
Originally posted by StupidMatt



OK, I was proven wrong about this statement. I didn't do any research on it. I never really bothered to think about if it was true or not. I just heard it from a few people, and usually people don't spread rumors about an interview, which is of course recorded evidence. I figured if it was "in an MTV interview" I hadn't see it. I have never thought, "OH BOY, a Lauryn Hill interview. Now that I think about it, I have never said, "Oh boy MTV." If she would have said anything racist, I never would have heard it. Sorry if I pissed off any of her fans, I didn't know.

I don't think you pissed anyone off. You were the one who fell for one more urban legend, not any of her fans.

All it takes is someone willing to believe and repeat the rumor as fact. You actually took a strong position against her while not putting any thought into it... and then spread it here.
 
Originally posted by StupidMatt
This is very true. If someone at Wal*Mart would have asked me for help and I would have clearly shook my head no, I would have been fired. Well, I did tell off that loud obnoxious redneck and no one said anything to me?! Hmmm. And I made about six dollars an hour. How much does Flea make an hour when he's working? :rolleyes: :D

C'mon Matt, think. What does your job at Wal Mart and Flea's have in common...




besides the groupies?
 
Originally posted by tmo33
i still think the whole star mentality is ridiculous. If I had a bad day, I would be an a-hole for acting like some stars do. I have had horrible days at my retail job, and when the next customer comes in, I don't take it out on them. There is no reason to. I work in a guitar store, and often have headaches all day. But I don't take it out on my customers. They don't deserve that. People of status get too much slack. We say things like, "Theres a lot of pressure there. He can act like a jerk if he wants to." I respect that Flea may be going through a lot, but COME ON! I'm sorry you are tired from the traveling. But the money you are getting in for getting up on a stage and playing bass, and running around like you're crazy just makes My yearly salary look like pocket change. Niether the stars or we commoners have any less stressful lives than the other. Lets talk about giving some respect to everyone, unless they give you a reason not to.

What did Flea do that was disrespectful? Not sign an autograph? Leave a door open presumably backstage?

I'm not saying anyone should get to act like a jerk. OTOH jerk does seem to be in the eye of the beholder.
 
Originally posted by Brad Johnson
I didn't get into music to meet women.

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT!!! :)

If there's anything that annoys me, it's musicians who give interviews and say that old cliche saying "I started playing music to meet girls and any musician who tells you different is lying". Excuse, please do not speak for me. You might have got into music for women, I got into music because I....*gasp*....loved music. I'm not saying I'm against female attention because of playing, but that was never what kept me picking up that bass, studying my scales, oh so long ago.

Sorry, I normally don't get indignant about trivial things, but when musicians say that, it's always rubbed me the wrong way.

To be truthful with you, I don't even like mentioning the fact that I am a musician to other people. I guess part of the reason of that is, I'm not a showoff and the other part is, because of my age, I don't think people take me that serious until they hear me anyways. I'm a lot of things, and being a musician is one of those. It's part of what I am, but I don't soley identify myself with being a musician.
 
Originally posted by Brad Johnson


I don't think you pissed anyone off. You were the one who fell for one more urban legend, not any of her fans.

All it takes is someone willing to believe and repeat the rumor as fact. You actually took a strong position against her while not putting any thought into it... and then spread it here.


First of all, get off my back, I said I was sorry. And furthermore, I said I heard it from a few people and they said it was in an MTV interview and I don't watch MTV. So for all I know, Lauryn Hill could have said that she would rather feed a donkey raisin bran that buy a Fugazi album. BUT the fact that I heard it from multiple sources, I didn't know that the music community was high school and we all spread dirty rumours around. So once again, I'M SORRY. :rolleyes:
 
I really can't imagine myself getting turned down(or away) by someone who I really look up to. Flea might be having a bad night or something, afterall, he's just human but if I was a big fan of his and finally managed to speak to him, nevermind catch a glimpse of him and then to get a simple request rejected, that would definitely leave a bad taste in my mouth. I don't think I'd look at him the same way. I'm not saying Flea is obligated to talk to fans and meet their requests but it would be a real dissapointment, you know what I mean?

"You met Flea backstage!? I'm so happy for you! How was it?" :bassist:

"Nothing much..I asked him for an autograph and he shook his head..Its okay, he was probably having a bad night.." :(
 
Originally posted by StupidMatt



First of all, get off my back, I said I was sorry. And furthermore, I said I heard it from a few people and they said it was in an MTV interview and I don't watch MTV. So for all I know, Lauryn Hill could have said that she would rather feed a donkey raisin bran that buy a Fugazi album. BUT the fact that I heard it from multiple sources, I didn't know that the music community was high school and we all spread dirty rumours around. So once again, I'M SORRY. :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: right back at ya.

Most of this thread smacks of a high school mentality.
 
Originally posted by LiquidMidnight


THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT!!! :)

If there's anything that annoys me, it's musicians who give interviews and say that old cliche saying "I started playing music to meet girls and any musician who tells you different is lying". Excuse, please do not speak for me. You might have got into music for women, I got into music because I....*gasp*....loved music. I'm not saying I'm against female attention because of playing, but that was never what kept me picking up that bass, studying my scales, oh so long ago.

Sorry, I normally don't get indignant about trivial things, but when musicians say that, it's always rubbed me the wrong way.

To be truthful with you, I don't even like mentioning the fact that I am a musician to other people. I guess part of the reason of that is, I'm not a showoff and the other part is, because of my age, I don't think people take me that serious until they hear me anyways. I'm a lot of things, and being a musician is one of those. It's part of what I am, but I don't soley identify myself with being a musician.

Agreed. Besides there are easier ways to meet women than to spend years learning an instrument. For example, you could buy a really cool car. Attention for all the wrong reasons is still attention;)
 
Originally posted by SMASH
While I agree with the spirit of what Brad writes, it's also true that if Flea's not digging everything that comes with the paycheques he can always stop releasing albums and stop making TV shows.

Too true. I'd bet that people would still be after him, just from his past notoriety.

Just change his name to John Uglymug and play some light jazz. That'll cure the idolatry but quick.

The name change probably wouldn't do it but if he switched to a Kenny G vibe, he'd get the results you mention:D

OR he could end up more popular than ever. Oh, the horror pt. II

Fame is a double-edged sword, but if you don't want to get cut then don't play with knives ... or something.

Sometimes, as I said before, fame is not the goal and when you reach it it may be far more than bargained for.

Fans often need to get a clue, but so too do the famous.

No doubt. Unfortunately we can't get feedback here from any celebs. The fan feedback OTOH isn't surprising. Regardless of the celebs situation, they should just suck it up and make their day. No mention of the fan sucking it up because their dream encounter with their idol was a letdown.

Life is indeed filled with rough spots. May this be the worst of them;)

Does this stuff remind anyone of someone they thought was standoff-ish who instead was just shy?
 
Living in So. Cal, I've met many, many "big name"
musicians; some are nicer than others; Billy
Sheehan comes to mind; the guy is class act
all the way. Zakk Wyllde is cool too, I drank a few beers with him. The meeting I regret most:
Jaco Pastorius! Talk about a letdown. Back
stage at Playboy Jazz the day Bill Cosby pulled
the plug on him... Took me a long time to
get over that one. I got a snub and a crappy
show to boot... Oh well, the guy was fighting
his demons I guess. I still respect him for
his playing though... Most of these people
are OK, just so long as you're not a pest.
 
Originally posted by StupidMatt



First of all, get off my back, I said I was sorry.

>>>> Pay no mind, lil' bass bro.. Brad likes
to come on strong and verbally pummel
people on these boards..If you still
want a Flea autograph, I can probably
get you one, but of course you're probably
soured now..


And furthermore, I said I heard it from a few people and they said it was in an MTV interview and I don't watch MTV. So for all I know, Lauryn Hill could have said that she would rather feed a donkey raisin bran that buy a Fugazi album. BUT the fact that I heard it from multiple sources, I didn't know that the music community was high school and we all spread dirty rumours around. So once again, I'M SORRY. :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by slugworth
Living in So. Cal, I've met many, many "big name"
musicians; some are nicer than others; Billy
Sheehan comes to mind; the guy is class act
all the way. Zakk Wyllde is cool too, I drank a few beers with him. The meeting I regret most:
Jaco Pastorius! Talk about a letdown. Back
stage at Playboy Jazz the day Bill Cosby pulled
the plug on him... Took me a long time to
get over that one. I got a snub and a crappy
show to boot... Oh well, the guy was fighting
his demons I guess. I still respect him for
his playing though... Most of these people
are OK, just so long as you're not a pest.


That's crazy that both Billy Sheehan and Zakk Wylde are cool guys. They both seem to be full of themselves in interviews. Cool stuff.


Yikes, I didn't hear that Jaco story. You know your career is over when Bill Cosby pulls the plug on you. :(
 
Originally posted by slugworth
Pay no mind, lil' bass bro.. Brad likes
to come on strong and verbally pummel
people on these boards..If you still
want a Flea autograph, I can probably
get you one, but of course you're probably
soured now..



Oh, I get in little cyber scuffles on here all the time. I don't mind. I'll have completely forgotten about it in a week or less. Life's too short to hold grudges.

Oh, Flea's still cool in my book. I've decided he was probably having a rough night. Maybe he heard some troubling news or something and in fact, he might even feel bad about that night.

and BTW: I'm not the one who wanted his autograph. :p But it would be cool, but I'd only want it if I met the guy. ;) He'll always be one of my bass inspirations.
 
Originally posted by StupidMatt




Oh, I get in little cyber scuffles on here all the time. I don't mind. I'll have completely forgotten about it in a week or less. Life's too short to hold grudges.

Oh, Flea's still cool in my book. I've decided he was probably having a rough night. Maybe he heard some troubling news or something and in fact, he might even feel bad about that night.

and BTW: I'm not the one who wanted his autograph. :p But it would be cool, but I'd only want it if I met the guy. ;) He'll always be one of my bass inspirations.

>>> Rock on, Matt...
 
Originally posted by StupidMatt
Oh, I get in little cyber scuffles on here all the time. I don't mind. I'll have completely forgotten about it in a week or less. Life's too short to hold grudges.

Cool.

Fortunately, Slugworth has a much longer memory:rolleyes:

Oh, Flea's still cool in my book. I've decided he was probably having a rough night. Maybe he heard some troubling news or something and in fact, he might even feel bad about that night.

That's what some of us have been saying... not just automatically cut him some slack, just understand that he too is human and who knows what might be going on at any particular time.

and BTW: I'm not the one who wanted his autograph. :p But it would be cool, but I'd only want it if I met the guy. ;) He'll always be one of my bass inspirations.

Understandable... what good is an autograph that someone else gets for you anyway, it's usually meeting them that's the biggest deal IME.
 
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