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i hate decisions!

so for the past few weeks, i've been trying to find a very light, decent sounding and cheap combo for playing late at night in the livingroom. i actually bought a blackstar fly3 bass, but there was something wrong with it. i returned it and got a blackstar fly3 bass pack (with the extra speaker), but i'm not pleased with it and sweetwater is letting me return it.

so we headed off to guitar center where they have no small bass amps lighter than the rumble 25, which is heavier than my wimpy self wanted to deal with, but i really do like that particular amp. sam ash carries some of the amps that interest me, but there are none in stock within 150 miles of me.

i wasn't able to find any of the other amps on my list to try, so i read reviews, checked demos - ignoring the tone on the ones with the mic touching or almost touching the grill.

that leaves these two as the best sounding. i know the rumble is going to be challenging for me to move around, although i could slide it on the floor. the warwick, a full 8 pounds lighter, has been recommended to me by several people on TB and the samples have a hint of ampeg BA-108 to the tone, which is nice, but there are none in stock anywhere, so i'd have to buy to try AND would have to wait till mid december, assuming they show up on time.

without further ado, the rumble and warwick samples.

https://www.thomann.de/gb/warwick_bc_10.htm

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thoughts?

Sorry, I’d love to help, but I don’t do light....for now...
 
Maybe consider a Roland Micro Cube bass amp. I got mine so that my acoustic bass could keep up volumewise with acoustic guitars around a campfire, since the amp can be powered by batteries. I’ve used it with my electric bass too and it is pretty loud for its size, it works great for practice.
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Sweetwater has sound samples from the Vox VX50BA. The "clean" samples sound pretty nice, but I'm guessing that they probably close-miked it. It's a lot more than you planned to spend, but it only weighs 9lb.

This is the one I'm interested in - I have a GK MB-112 II that I use for gigs with my band but would like something smaller and even lighter - don't expect it to compete with drums but would like to use with my U-Bass for playing with acoustic (and quiet electric) guitars in a small coffee shop setting. And I guess I'm intrigued by the NuTube thing, hoping it sounds good "clean"

There's a thread here - a couple of negative reviews but one is due to a faulty amp, Sweetwater has positive reviews, but not many here at TB yet.
 
I have a Peavey Vypyr 1 modeling amp. Pretty decent sounding at low volume. Only 20 watts and weighs about 20 lbs. Usually run $120 - $130. I have been well satisfied with mine.

originally i was looking for something around 10 pounds (shoulder issues), but i'll give it a shot if i can find one. our local GC just got rid of all their peavey stuff, but i might be able to find it at another GC

If you haven’t ruled out the Rumble 40 already, you might consider it. I think its lighter than the 25.

sound samples from the Vox VX50BA

Fender Rumble 25 vs Rumble 40

i'm not ready to spend $200 on what's basically only a middle of the night amp unless it blows me right out of the water. i actually like the 25. our local GC has every rumble but that one, so i couldn't try it on our last visit.

Sweetwater has Fender Rumble 25 vs Rumble 40 weight discrepancy. The "clean" samples sound pretty nice, but I'm guessing that they probably close-miked it. It's a lot more than you planned to spend, but it only weighs 9lb.

i like the weight, i could live with the price, but the very few room miked samples i've found sounded like a guitar amp, not a bass amp. i'd love to try one in person, but so far no luck. the clean samples on sweetwater don't blow me away. i think killed by death has one on the way, so maybe he can tell us what he thinks after it arrives.

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If you are inclined to dig for $ and go with the 700rb I'd get this cab: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

i'm looking for a tiny, lightweight practice amp. i also ready have a larger rig, and i actually prefer the MB series to the RB series.

I'd be inclined (yes, there's a pun there) to look at the Hartke kickbacks for sitting around the living room, as the speaker could be pointed at your ears. You'd hear yourself better, and wouldn't be as likely to turn up, which everyone else would appreciate.

i haven't been a fan of the hartke aluminum speakers, but thought "you never know", so i looked the kickback series up. the smallest kickback is too heavy for my needs and was discontinued according to the hartke/samson website. that leaves the big more expensive one. thanks, though - it was a good thought.

Another reason to go with the Rumble 40 over the 25 is the DI out. If it works as well as the one on my older 150 combo and 500 head, its a good useable option in a pinch. Plus I just think plywood cabs (Rumble 40) sound better than MDF (Rumble 25).

this is my middle of the night livingroom amp. i have a bigger rig if i need DI out and i also have a tech 21.

I own an Epiphone Studio 10 and really like it for late night practice.

Here's a used on on GC for under twenty bucks.


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does it have a decent amount of bass for its size? i can only find samples of the guitar version.

Maybe consider a Roland Micro Cube bass amp. I got mine so that my acoustic bass could keep up volumewise with acoustic guitars around a campfire, since the amp can be powered by batteries. I’ve used it with my electric bass too and it is pretty loud for its size, it works great for practice.
There's a thread here

that's where i started. right now, i'm looking for something cheaper. i really like the micro cube - i've played it a few times, and it's quite nice. maybe not phil jones double 4 nice, but i like it. i'm pretty sure it's somewhere in my future - just not within a month of buying two basses.

This is the one I'm interested in - I have a GK MB-112 II that I use for gigs with my band but would like something smaller and even lighter - don't expect it to compete with drums but would like to use with my U-Bass for playing with acoustic (and quiet electric) guitars in a small coffee shop setting. And I guess I'm intrigued by the NuTube thing, hoping it sounds good "clean"

Fender Rumble 25 vs Rumble 40 - a couple of negative reviews but one is due to a faulty amp, Sweetwater has positive reviews, but not many here at TB yet.

all the video demos i've found are close miked, and the clean samples on sweetwater - they're from VOX, i've heard them elsewhere - aren't blowing me away. it sounds like a guitar amp to me, maybe tubey, but where's the beef? still, you never know. i REALLY wanted to try one in person, but they didn't have one at our local GC - i looked.
 
Decisions are easy. You choose one and don’t second guess yourself.

As for which amp is better. If you needed to have the amp serviced, which would be less painful and have the quickest turnaround. This is a very important consideration.

Warwick:
Has rat fur which gathers dust.
Has a mini headphone jack. They can break, ¼" is better.
10W, 8” speaker in a bass reflex housing to move air.
Has a fan. If you can hear it, it could bug you.
The amp is smaller.


Fender:
Has vinyl skin.
Has a ¼” headphone jack which will stand up better.
25W, 10” speaker in a simple cabinet.


If you want clean, the Warwick has a compressor that can reduce distortion. It sounds better to me but demos can be deceiving.

Fender is a safe bet in the US.

good pros/cons list. the big question is whether the amp runs all the time.
 
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For what it's worth I have a Roland Bass Micro Cube - bought barely , used at Guitar Center for 125 $ that sounds quite good - I also have a Cafe Walter headphone amp bought used for about the same money that also sounds very good . Either one would do for your uses I expect and both have ' better than the usual suspects " sound - but neither are cheap nor something you can find without some effort and luck . Certainly the Roland at the brand new price is steep but if you can find one in good shape for around what I paid - my guess is you would be very happy with it . Best of luck - Kelly
 
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GK MB108

https://www.amazon.com/Gallien-Krue...=UTF8&qid=1539821410&sr=8-1&keywords=gk+mb108

I bought one for my son. It's small, it's light, it's cheap, and it thumps.

i didn't know they made a little amp. that would have been a very likely contender except for the lack of volume/master knob. i like a very clean, warm sound, and the reason i didn't get the GK MB200 (which also has no volume knob), was that if you turn up the gain at all, the sound gets grindier. is this little combo the same?

i'd REALLY like to try one of these and see if i can get the sound i want with the gain turned very low. i wonder what the odds are of finding one locally to try.
 
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Bite the bullet, rob 3 liquor stores, and get the Phil Jones Double 4.

the liquor store guys would laugh themselves to death when i showed up to rob them...

i got to try a double 4 in person at a fellow TBer's place for a few minutes. wow - the sound is so big it defies physics. what does phil jones know about audio that virtually no one else seems to know?
 
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the liquor store guys would laugh themselves to death when i showed up to rob them...

i got to try a double 4 in person at a fellow TBer's place for a few minutes. wow - the sound is so big it defies physics. what does phil jones know about audio that virtually no one else seems to know?
It will ruin you for other micro amps! :D My guess is the custom designed speakers plus knowing how to do a radiator right.
 
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It will ruin you for other micro amps!

That's for sure. It even sounds better than the PJB Bass Cub I use at work for testing and practice.

The Double Four is so clean that I like to use the little Ampeg preamp with it, for a bit more warmth.

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I must be missing something here. If this is for late night, just the other side of silent practice, why not just grab a headphone amp and be done with it? I mean, really, buying an amplifier that you barely want to hear?
Just my .02:)
My thought exactly. I've had this Vox plug in a drawer for 10 years but just tried it with earbuds and low volume music playing through the livingroom speakers. It's perfect, I can dial in loud bass to hear myself vs. the music and nobody else can hear it. Has an AUX jack too, but there are phone apps/jacks if you want a play-along option. I think $40.

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