I feel like this needs to be repeated....
PCAKE DOES NOT WANT TO USE HEADPHONES!!!!!!!!!!
PCAKE DOES NOT WANT TO USE HEADPHONES!!!!!!!!!!
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i hate decisions!
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This little Eden is 14 pounds, according to the googles. No idea how it sounds, though:
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Headphones can make the inside of you ears swell which leads to dizziness. For some this happens easier than for others.
The headphone output may be able to be used for other things. If the headphone jack is at the speaker output in the circuit, the jack can be used to direct the output signal into another cab. Nice if the amp output is hard wired to the speaker and it doesn't have a separate speaker output jack. An amp with a ¼" output jack is best for this, those smaller phone sized jacks (⅛") do not have the current rating to do this.
Some amps have a separate mini amplifier driving the headphone out, using the jack as a speaker cab output will not work well in these cases.
The headphone output may be able to be used for other things. If the headphone jack is at the speaker output in the circuit, the jack can be used to direct the output signal into another cab. Nice if the amp output is hard wired to the speaker and it doesn't have a separate speaker output jack. An amp with a ¼" output jack is best for this, those smaller phone sized jacks (⅛") do not have the current rating to do this.
Some amps have a separate mini amplifier driving the headphone out, using the jack as a speaker cab output will not work well in these cases.
i hear you saying that in my imagination using a sigmund freud accent
No amp? Or do you like to feel it even at home? A small Peavy combo might help for the later. I like the PJB stuff for that, but for headphones/in the box gear ( I always loved that phrase ) there are a ton of usb/fw options. Not like the old days. GLWYS
i have a rig but it's too big for me to move easily or quietly. can't use headphones.
that is a part of the real question, because we have 9 basses and guitars in the living room, my 112 and LH500 and my desk on the far side of the living room from where i want the little amp, and my electronic drum set plus some furniture.
But then you have to decide whether to flip a quarter, or a dime... Or your lucky penny, but then maybe you'd be biasing the outcome...
I know it's already been mentioned, but the Fender Rumbles are really hard to beat for their awesome combination of tone, cost, and light weight. I've owned the Rumble 40 and still own the 100 as my "throw it in the trunk for rehearsal" amp.
I don't know if anyone has suggested the Peavey Microbass yet. I owned one years ago just like this one:
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It sounded shockingly good, as long as you kept the volume low. I don't know what the exact weight was, but it was very small and light.
If you had unlimited budget I'd suggest a Barefaced One10 and the tiny head of your choice; maybe a Trace Elliot ELF. That would be a bucketload of money, however, for a living room amp.
Good luck!
my lucky penny, dime and quarter have been failing me lately.
the rumbles rock - well, not the 15 but all the rest of them. the 25 i like the sound of, maybe will head back to GC and see if i like it turned way down.
is the microbass the predecessor to the MAX 126, do you think?
if i had more budget, i'd have already grabbed the phil jones double 4 or possibly the roland micro cube RX long ago and would happily be playing and loving the sound at 1 am without bothering anyone.
this - exactly this! thank you for this post.
years ago i was playing my electronic drums via headphones so quietly i could have literally had a conversation while playing when i started having pain. i stopped playing, but it sounded like i had a lot of water in my right ear and any sound hurt. a specialist gave me steroids, which helped some, and told me not to use headphones or earbuds or it would happen again. all told, it took about a year for my right ear to improve most of the way, but it never did get all the way better.
so no headphones for me...
This is what I keep tucked away in my truck for use when I run off to make a CL deal somewhere on the road. Plug it through a small inverter and use the truck battery for power. I'd recommend this as well.
same problem applies - i'd rather hear before i buy. my guitar playing husband likes the vypyr series, and he likes max bass in his guitar sound, but this is something i'd rather hear in person before buying. so now i have one more amp to add to the growing list of amps i can't try in person that might work
I have a Fender Mustang I V2, a guitar modelling amplifier, with apparently that same "Fender Special Design" 8" speaker. I could never find ultimate proof but I wonder, are they really the same speaker?
When I got a bass, I decided to stick to this and just use the Bassman model. If that speaker is in the Rumble, it won't blow up in the Mustang.
I wonder how the older Mustang Mini and its 6.5" speaker would sound. It was small and cute, with all the modelling features of the bigger one.
i owned the rumble 15 (sounds like a guitar amp) and have played the rumble 25 a lot. the rumble 15 and 25 shared the speaker size, but you'd never have guessed from listening to them.
That's interesting. The only obvious difference between those is thickness: 20cm for the 15 and 28cm for the 25. Then 2 Kg more.
I thought these things would make no difference in living room playing conditions, which is why I stayed with my guitar amp, but you seem to think otherwise.
i figure the box is voiced differently but never opened them up to look. hmmm...
i have played my bass through guitar amps. i have played my basses at super low volume through my LH500 with the GK neo 112 ll and my bronco 40 at nighttime volume. even at super low volume, i definitely hear the difference. of course, not all guitar amps or bass amps are alike - my husband plays 7 string and 8 string guitars sometimes, so some of his amps are voiced for that lower end.
that being said, i'm currently playing by the couch through a line 6 spider ll guitar amp. my husband hated it right after he bought it, so i was using it for low volume electronic drum playing. what i find is that the higher notes - and the 2 higher bass strings - are louder than the lower strings and notes, which are not only quieter rather muted. weird, right?
The problem is that you’re up against laws of physics. Low weight means small cab. Small cab, within your budget, means it’s going to sound more like a guitar amp than a bass amp. Headphones are not a possibility, I understand. I had a Line 6 Studio 110 that I recently gave away. Can’t remember if it’s under 20, but it’s close. You can find them used for $99.
I have that exact same amp, and have in the past run a thumpy Hofner through it at reasonable bedroom volumes, and it sounded perfectly fine (using the Bassman model as well)
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I hate decisions too!! The other day I was trying to buy a sandwich and I just couldn’t do it! Why can’t they just give you sandwich regardless of what you may or may not like? Everyone gets the exact same thing. No decisions necessary.
Yes, exactly, @pcake !i hear you saying that in my imagination using a sigmund freud accent
i have a rig but it's too big for me to move easily or quietly. can't use headphones.
that is a part of the real question, because we have 9 basses and guitars in the living room, my 112 and LH500 and my desk on the far side of the living room from where i want the little amp, and my electronic drum set plus some furniture.
my lucky penny, dime and quarter have been failing me lately.
the rumbles rock - well, not the 15 but all the rest of them. the 25 i like the sound of, maybe will head back to GC and see if i like it turned way down.
is the microbass the predecessor to the MAX 126, do you think?
if i had more budget, i'd have already grabbed the phil jones double 4 or possibly the roland micro cube RX long ago and would happily be playing and loving the sound at 1 am without bothering anyone.
this - exactly this! thank you for this post.
years ago i was playing my electronic drums via headphones so quietly i could have literally had a conversation while playing when i started having pain. i stopped playing, but it sounded like i had a lot of water in my right ear and any sound hurt. a specialist gave me steroids, which helped some, and told me not to use headphones or earbuds or it would happen again. all told, it took about a year for my right ear to improve most of the way, but it never did get all the way better.
so no headphones for me...
At the weight you want, I don't think you'll find a bass amp available that sounds all that great. For the same situation I went this way. Total weight under a pound, probably.
The OP can't use headphones. If it weren't for the high price, the Phil Jones Double Four does sound very, very good.
thank you both. i hadn't considered the HD-15 because i haven't cared for the hartke hydrive cabs i've played through, but your recommendations made me decide to try this one and the HD-25 out. the first HD-15 i bought had an odd problem - it absolutely reeked of chemicals to the point where it made us both sick, coughing and sneezing madly, but i tried it enough to decide it suits my needs pretty well, so yesterday we went to sam ash and they exchanged it for another one. it's about midnight and i'm playing it now, not bothering anyone, but it sounds pretty good, actually. surprising amounts of bass for such a little amp.
Just forget those 15-25 watts combo, go with rumble 40 combo . Light, good tone, unexpected loud and cool retro look.
