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I made up my mind: I prefer lined fretless.

I have both lined and unlined and have never had problems switching between them. My brain just automatically toggles between "unlined - the dots are the guide" to "lined - the lines are the guide." Switching between 34 and 35 inch scale unlined bass though ... That drove me nuts. I standardized on 34".

That is what makes you an optimal all fretless player.
 
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First, the bass guitar is wholly unlike the upright bass. Just because a player plays both instruments has almost no bearing on the choice of playing the bass guitar with or without lines. Arguments to the contrary mainly end up being about appearance to the audience.

The most valid argument I’ve heard from players I’ve known in favor of no lines has been from players who are used to targeting the dots on fretted instruments between the frets for their finger stops; and in those cases, having fret lines and dot markers in between the lines leads to out of tune stops.

More generally, with the bass guitar in playing position, it is difficult to see the fingerboard surface in lower positions where most playing gets done; and in those lower positions, the markings on the fingerboard are more or less irrelevant. Instead, we ALL use the marks on the fingerboard edge in the lower positions.

The big difference comes in higher positions, where the fingerboard is readily visible. An absence of marks on the board in the upper positions makes accurate large position changes in the upper register to be more difficult than without reference markings on the board; and this is particularly the case because the expanding neck taper and diminishing distance between stop points in that area makes the required triangulation more difficult. Even with world class pitch discrimination, if you put your finger in the wrong place before striking the note, then your intonation will be poor.

So, players need to pick their poison. Plenty of talented players of both persuasions; and no need to get tribal about the matter. IMHO.
 
my unlined experience is decades old so it's a habit of my brain not to want the lines (they confuse me when i'm looking). that said: everyone's brain (and the conceptualizations that goes with it) gets to operate differently, and everyone gets to decide how to use the brain (and eyes, ears, fingers, hands, arms, legs, etc.) that they have. differences among us aren't important in the grand scheme of things.

the cool thing = we can adapt, and we are real winners when we can choose those things to which we can adapt! yay! playing the bass instruments is a privilege and a pleasure. lines vs. no-lines isn't even important in the grand scheme of that endeavor.

also: the repeated argument(s) among us re: lined/unlined is really all about entertaining ourselves --- in venues like TB. it doesn't even come up in my real world. fretless doesn't even come up. hell, the bass doesn't even come up! it's all about the music IME.

doc likes lined. i like unlined. big whup. what if this was the last time the issue was ever attended? :laugh:
 
I like em blank for aesthetics, but understand why some prefer lines. Use what works best for you!
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It's pretty amazing to think that one could jump up half the fingerboard rapidly and hit the correct note on an unlined board - the guys that can do it, amaze me.

But I consider Gary Willis to be the leading fretless player of the last few decades, and with him choosing lines, I have no problem following his lead. He had a good idea with them ramps too :)
 
Those naked fingerboards are beautiful.:thumbsup:

Thanks, I sure like em!

When I got that one in the back circa 1987, I honestly don't know if lined fretless existed, except defretted ones. It never occurred to me that there was such a thing, anyway! I'm surprised lined fretless is basically standard now.

If lined boards help people play in tune, I'm in favor of it! :thumbsup: I just know for me, if I'm not hearing it, lines ain't gonna help! :roflmao: