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I never realized John Mcvie was so good

#61
sound of bass said:
Hmm, I always thought he was a good bassist, but not a great one.
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It all depends upon what your definition of a great bassist is. I'm certain that I'm not one, though others who know me think otherwise.

Mick Fleetwood lives nearby on my tiny little island, and my company has hired his band* on a couple of occasions. The only reason that John McVie is not in that band is because he won't move out here... but it's not because Mick hasn't begged him to.

Mick Fleetwood has enough professional clout to get any bassist he wants- assuming they can put up with him- and yet he still wants the same one that he's had for fifty years. That would not be the case if he weren't a great player.

* Mick Fleetwood's Island Rumours Band: MF, Raiatea Helm, Eric Gilliom, Willie K, Rick Vito, and I forget whom else...

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Raiatea is a cute little biscuit....
 
#63
the byronic man said:
Buckingham is an INCREDIBLE guitar player. his FM stuff isn't particularly flashy, but the man can play.
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Yeah I nearly fell over when I read that "master of the one note guitar solo" biz too :rollno:
Go listen to his solo album "Out Of The Cradle"...specifically his version of "This Nearly Was Mine"....simply amazing.

Sorry bout the de-rail....John McVie is fantastic and was a big influence on me as well.
 
#64
Thundar said:
Yeah I nearly fell over when I read that "master of the one note guitar solo" biz too :rollno:
Go listen to his solo album "Out Of The Cradle"...specifically his version of "This Nearly Was Mine"....simply amazing.

Sorry bout the de-rail....John McVie is fantastic and was a big influence on me as well.
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also the "Instrumental Introduction To This is the Time" on the same album. so good.
 
#65
DWBass said:
As promised, I found a better version of my old band playing "Say You Love Me". It's a live version we recorded off the mixing board. This was recorded about 4 or 5 years ago.

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yes, that is much better! Why, because the drummer can keep time! Mick is one of my all-time favorite drummers, his time is so steady you can set your watch by him, just flat out amazing! And no doubt the 2 of them make a superb rhythm section, which, as all talkbass members know, is what really makes a band great...

as far as FM, I am a big fan of the Bob Welch era stuff as well as Future Games, but one bass line I think really defines greatness is the lines John plays in "Angel" off Tusk, so subtle but moves relentlessly, and with all of those little toss off lines and the lock, man, he and Mick are such a rhythm section!
 
#66
They caught lightning in a bottle when Buckingham/Nicks came on board. I have yet to find a band that just.......works as well as that one. Definitely the drummer I'd most like to play with. JM is one of the players that got me interested in the bass.
 
#67
avvie said:
It all depends upon what your definition of a great bassist is. I'm certain that I'm not one, though others who know me think otherwise.

Mick Fleetwood lives nearby on my tiny little island, and my company has hired his band* on a couple of occasions. The only reason that John McVie is not in that band is because he won't move out here... but it's not because Mick hasn't begged him to.

Mick Fleetwood has enough professional clout to get any bassist he wants- assuming they can put up with him- and yet he still wants the same one that he's had for fifty years. That would not be the case if he weren't a great player.

* Mick Fleetwood's Island Rumours Band: MF, Raiatea Helm, Eric Gilliom, Willie K, Rick Vito, and I forget whom else...

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Raiatea is a cute little biscuit....
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Lenny Castellanos is Mick's regular bassist out here, great player and a great guy!
 
#70
Was listening to Rumors again, it has been awhile. That album still amazes me with how perfect it is, there isn't a single weak song and almost every song was either an outright hit or at least recieved regular airplay. Even the overall sound of the album is fantastic. That is rare for any band.
 
#72
Some of the raw stuff is fun too.

May I direct your attention to the bass solo on 'Green Manalishi' from the
Boston Tea Party recordings made in February 1970. The dichotomy between
McVie, tasty bassist playing to the song and McVie, Bass Monster is
interesting.

I have this on a disc called 'The Vintage Years' which wiki says is supposed to be 'Live at the Boston Tea Party' Wiki is never wrong so the disc I own is probably a mirage.


Also, on Rattlesnake Shake, Mac and Mick go balls to the wall (I mean that
device Mick always wore on stage, of course) for about 20 minutes straight.
As a bassist, I found the recorded show impressive on many levels apart from
just the demonstration of ripping raw chops that he rarely shows in later
recordings.
 
#73
I have the full set of recordings, three shows, from the Tea Party, Thor. The Vintage Years is sort of a sampler of the three shows. Nice P-Bass through a fuzzy Marshall tone on the bass solos on Green Manalishi.

You're right, totally different playing from supporting extended psychedelic blues jams to playing for the song in a laid-back California sound band. Sort of like a come-down or hangover!
 
#80
I've always loved how John McVie and Mick Fleetwoods' lines,and fills. They just absolutely intertwined with each other. A lot of the time,the groove they produced,ended up sounding like one instrument. Which,IMHO,should be every bassist and drummers goal. For me,John McVie and Gene :bassist: $immons were THE first early influences,when it came to me "developing" my style early on.
Lil' off topic: When I received my first bass (from my parents),for my Christmas/B-day present,also in my stocking was two 45rpm singles. The singles were, "Tusk",by F/wood Mac,and "Another on Bites the Dust",by Queen,of course. Those were the first tunes that I learned to play.
 

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