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I Was Wrong About FODERA!!!

plangentmusic

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The people at Fodera are amazing and now, so is my bass!

I mentioned in the "What Bass Dissappointed You" thread that my Fodera didn't live up to its claims. I must admit. I'm a bit of a "reverse-snob" when it comes to custom built instruments. More often than not, I just don't think they're worth it.

I've played Sadowsy's and though, 'Eh, it's a nice Fender."

Alembics? Killer sound, but it's that ONE sound.

Ken Smiths -- nice, but heavy, unbalanced and simply not worth the money.

I originally went with a Fodera because it's truly customized, but in the end, my ax just wasn't working for me. I surmised it was inherent to the instrument. Maybe it was the wood. Or the neck-through design. Whatever it was, it just didn't cut it. I shelved it for years.

Well, a rep from Fodera saw that post and contacted me and invited me to the factory to fix the problem. As it turned out there were some issues where the bass wasn't putting out as it should. They went to work.

After all was said and done, the bass sounded a million times better! However, I realized I was sorry I had EMG's in it. I got them because they're hot but I never loved the sound. Then Joey recommended a new design pickup that is a stacked single coil -- so it has the sound of a single but is quiet. They gave me a great deal of those so I went for it.

I must say, now...THIS BASS KILLS!

The bridge pu is like Jaco on steroids! I have more highs than any human can ask for. And the lows are deep and punchy. But what may be best is the mids. They aren't harsh. But they sure do cut. I can get an authentic sound for funk, rock, jazz, pick playing -- you name it.

So after all these years, I really do have the bass of my dreams. It just goes to show how certain perceptions can be made. But I'm glad I spoke out and I'm glad I got to meet the gang at Fodera. They really are craftsman and with no pretense.

Sure, they aren't cheap. They are the Rolls Royce of basses. But take it from a guy who isn't swayed by fancy workmanship or elitist attitudes. Hell, I think some Squire's are as good as a lot of 1K basses out there. I'm not impressed with price tags. But if you're looking to get something that is truly a notch above the rest, check these guys out. EIGHTEEN YEARS AFTER I BOUGHT MY BASS, they were giving personal attention and service to it to make sure I was happy. Good luck finding that with some of those other companies.

I'm not too proud to admit I was wrong.

Thanks guys. Looking forward to many happy years of bassplaying with my old/new Fodera.
 
Now THAT is some good service, and some great reps! I think eventually, things will come full circle... Businesses started out with good service and standing behind products, then came globalization and corporations... but I'm hoping one day that will fall apart and go back to the personal, customer first approach.
 
Wow....that's an amazing story. I'm glad to hear that you were satisfied after all was said and done. If I had dropped all that money and been unhappy for all those years, I would have been crushed. But, I probably wouldn't have had the patience to keep it all those to experience the redemption your bass did. Congrats!
 
Alembics? Killer sound, but it's that ONE sound.

hmmm. i can get my '85 alembic distillate to mimic my p basses, my jazz basses, my EB-3, my rics and of course, an alembic. to me, it definitely doesn't have just one sound.


So after all these years, I really do have the bass of my dreams. It just goes to show how certain perceptions can be made.

I'm not too proud to admit I was wrong.

i'm really glad to hear that you got your Fodera sorted, and are now happy with it. i'm also not a big fan of EMG pickups, so i believe you definitely made the right choice in replacing (upgrading) them. kudos for hanging in there with it.
 
there are no better guys in the music business than Vinny and Joey. I have know them for about 27 years and they have never been too busy to help out or tweak one of my basses when i just show up unannounced... A few months ago my 5 string emp started to sound really sick.. I just showed up and Joey checked it out and installed a new and improved chip for my preamp - circa 86-ish. Stars and nobodies all get the same white glove treatment. New guy seems like a good guy also although i don't have the history.

Your bass seems to have worked out very well. congrats and enjoy the bass. Lesson learned - you should have contacted them sooner...

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Thanks to the OP for taking the time to write this...not so much because it "redeems" Fodera, but because it makes a really, really important point to all buyers and builders of custom instruments...

We spend a great deal of time and energy trying to spec the perfect combination of woods an electronics for each player BEFORE the wood ever makes it onto the shop floor. Sometimes we hit the ball out of the park on the first try and sometimes the resulting bass needs some tweaking to dial everything in. And, in a few cases we literally need to go back to the drawing board and start again. That is the whole point of Fodera -- to bring YOUR musical voice to life, not impose our signature on it.

The OP spent a lot of his hard earned money and waited quite some time for his bass to arrive and when it did...he didn't like it. And he suffered silently...for 18 years! Think of all of the missed playing opportunities over that time. And yet, one simple phone call to the shop saying, "guys this just isn't working for me," and we could have gotten to work solving the problem(s) so that the bass was what it was originally intended to be when purchased.

As a true custom builder we have so many tools at our disposal to make your bass sound and feel the way you want...from making our own strings to having a customizable preamp to literally limitless possibilities with wood combinations and pickup voicings. It becomes much more a question of great two-way communication than anything else in terms of achieving a desired tone. But it all comes down to the two-way communication...if we do something someone hates and they don't tell us about it, it is impossible to make it right...

One factual correction from the OP's post...we installed a custom-wound Fodera lateral humbucker in the bridge position, not a stacked humbucker...there is a HUGE difference in sound.

Anyway, this story does appear to have a happy ending and hopefully serves as a lesson to all of us that buy high-end custom instruments (remember that I too play and buy basses...I don't just work on them). Do the hard work of making sure that the communication with your builder really flows in both directions...we can only build you what you want if both you and we know what it is. ;)

Humbly and happily...

Jason
 
I've played Sadowsy's and though, 'Eh, it's a nice Fender."
The bridge pu is like Jaco on steroids

So now you have nice Fender in Fodera clothes??

Not really. My point was that I can get a strong rear pu sound which is simply one of THE sounds I like.

Let's face it, almost everything is based off of a P or J. To me, the ideal bass gives me both of those sounds but with some variance and a lot more fidelity.
 
Glad your bass worked out for you! I'd read your disappointment with your bass and I'm glad (but unsurprised) that they were able to get it to where you wanted it to sound.

I've played Sadowsy's and though, 'Eh, it's a nice Fender."

Really? I think they sound VERY different, and I think I'm far from alone in hearing that.

In any event, congrats on finally getting the bass you wanted.