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I won a Virtual Dynamics Power 3 Cable

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billfitzmaurice said:
Read this.
http://theaudiocritic.com/blog/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=32&blogId=1

Probably not even worth the cost of the shipping.:scowl:
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I CANNOT BELIEVE THERE ARE STILL SMART PEOPLE ON THIS EARTH! Thank you, Bill, I'm printing this and leaving one on EVERY desk at my office, and handing it to my bandmates. This kinda crap PISSES ME OFF when people say, "Look! I got this awesome cable, man!" Oh yeah, you're still plugging into a bar's crappy power outlet on a crappy stage, hooked up to the same crappy circuits powering the crappy stage lights!

I love BFM. He has X-ray vision that sees through the B.S.
 
#43
Mark Reccord said:
I did record one instance where a fancy power cable resulted in 6dB lower noise floor than a standard IEC, but it was because the amplifier connected to it had a woefully bad power supply design. The amp in question was a high dollar single-ended 300B power amp. I couldn't repeat the result with any other piece of equipment.
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Due to the inherent poor PSRR of a SE triode cct, and the likelihood that if the B+ had issues so did the direct heated filaments (AC?) I'm not surprised there was some effect. Which shelf you placed it on your equiptment rack probably made a difference. I have quite a bit of experience designing around DHT and DHP tubes (45, 47, 2A3, 300B, 211, 845, 813, GM70) and they pose a lot of design and construction challenges to get right, especially filaments. However, this is a lot different to a multistage SS poweramp, often with much better inherent PSRR and > 30dB of NFB. SET's invariably have none.
 
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It's a monster.

You can refute the claims all you want, just try not to make it a personal insult against me - all I did was win the thing and post about it. And I was as skeptical as most of you... till I plugged it in.

And the only entity making money on the shipping was Canada Post - it cost them $28.00 to ship, express post (fastest/insured).

Cameron
 
#46
Sorry Bro. I certainly do not mean to insult you. I just don't beleive in it that's all. If you hear a difference, I believe you.

I would also say that even with a very subtle difference in sound quality, wouldn't it be masked by all the associated factors such as room acoustics, ambient noise, other instuments etc.?

I can say for sure that at my age, my hearing doesn't pick up extremely minute differences in sound in a normal gigging environment. I'm sure many other's can.
 
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lbwdog said:
Sorry Bro. I certainly do not mean to insult you. I just don't beleive in it that's all. If you hear a difference, I believe you.

I would also say that even with a very subtle difference in sound quality, wouldn't it be masked by all the associated factors such as room acoustics, ambient noise, other instuments etc.?

I can say for sure that at my age, my hearing doesn't pick up extremely minute differences in sound in a normal gigging environment. I'm sure many other's can.
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I think what's making the difference is the fact that it has a 12 gauge solid copper conductor - the rest is probably total ********, IMHO.

C.
 
#48
billfitzmaurice said:
The Placebo Effect is well known, and it works with everything from cables to that new pair of 'P.F. Flyers' sneakers that you were absolutely positive really did make you run faster and jump higher back when you were ten. The only way to discount the placebo effect is with double blind testing, where neither you nor the person administering the test are aware which cable is which as they are randomly switched. Double Blind Testing is the bane of existence for the cable mountebanks, who scurry away like cockroaches when the lights come on at the mere mention of the term.
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Hey Bill! What the!? You mean? PF Flyers didn't... Oh NO!
 
#50
lbwdog said:
Oh No, Mr. Bill!! Aquafina is a tad drier whereas Dasani has that sweet, nutty flavor. Very slight difference but discernible to the trained palate.:rolleyes:
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It has a smoother finish. But the fact that they were reverse osmosed causes them to leach minerals out of your body into the water and you pee them out. Not a healthy choice. A lot smoother though than say Baltimore City water or any water in a movie theatre water fountain.
 
#53
Ok, I find this one very hard to buy. I was an electrician for many years and can't possibly imagine that this is anything other than a money making scam. I can maybe see some type of power conditioner affecting the amps sound as they are able to regulate and keep the input voltage to the amp very consistent, but a $300 power cord? Sorry, not buying it. I spoke with someone that works at Monster Cable once about their ultra top of the line $300 cables that come in their own custom case and asked him if the cables really made a difference or not. His comment was "It doesn't matter. There is a market for these cables and people are buying them, so we will continue to make them."
You know what a good A/B test would be? At your next gig, change power cables in the middle of your set, and then see if anyone comes up to you after the gig and says "Dude, what happened to your sound? It got, like $300 better sounding about halfway through the set".
 
#56
IMO getting a double or triple shielded instrument cable would be much more worth the money. Also makes me wonder if some one has tried XLR with differential amplification on a raw guitar signal yet...

As for the cable, I am sure you could probably roll just about anything over it (if it will roll over that speed bump) and not damage it. But wouldn't the solid core wore break after several good flexes?

But congrats on getting the best deal possible on something- and glad to hear you like it... Your opinion is the one that really matters :)
 
#57
Interesting thread. I'd imagine the cable makes more difference with some rigs than others. Something that would concern me would be the weight of the thick cable pulling downwards on the sockets at the well and amp.
 
#58
ya know what, Cam came on here to just give his thoughts/observations on a piece of equipment... and only to report HIS feelings about it and not to shove the doctrine of '$300 power cables must be used by all or you're a bunch of saps' , he simply was relaying his experiences with this cool little piece of gear and now we're jumping on him like he's some kind of a$$hole???:scowl:

SMASH, buddy, I know ya and dig ya and you're a good guy, but c'mon, Cam's just giving his take on a cable. If it works for him why do you feel the need to jump down his throat?:confused:

If i hadn't A/B'd a Monster Cable with a PJB cable I would have thought that there was a whole lot of snake oil in that crap but you know what, there is a difference.

And as far as the arguments of "I'd like to see you swap it out on a gig mid-set and hear if anyone comes up and says it sounds $300 better"... ya, that kind of debating maybe worked in grade 3. When it comes time to play, ultimately I don't care whether or not the audience can hear that I've just put a fresh set of my favourite strings on or not... I CARE!! My tone makes me play better which in turn makes it a better experience for everyone involved.

sheeesh, the guy's just giving his take on a cable :hmm:
 
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FWIW, myself and a friend have reliably detected sonic differences between a Monster cable and my homemade cable which uses Mogami wire and Neutrik connectors. I found the Monster somewhat rolled off in the highs, possibly due to higher capacitance. If I had the proper measurement tools, it would be interesting to try to quantify these differences empirically.

My view is that every part of the signal chain affects the sound... the question is how much....
 
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