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I would NEVER buy a bass that nice without playing it first!!

Do you buy a piece of gear without trying it out?

  • Yep. No worries.

    Votes: 316 74.4%
  • Only inexpensive stuff.

    Votes: 45 10.6%
  • Only from a retail establishment.

    Votes: 46 10.8%
  • Never.

    Votes: 18 4.2%

  • Total voters
    425
never in a million years. each bass is unique even the cheap mass produced ones. Ive had an Import MTD that ive been trying to find a sister to for 20 years. ive played the exact same model numerous times and they are never the same. close but not exact. the feel to me is more important that tone. i can get whatever tone i need but i can't fix feel.
 
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I’ve seen this said a lot around TB and I’m not sure I agree with it.

It seems to pop up a lot. Sometimes it's advice to someone looking for a bass-- "Don't buy it til you play it first." Sometimes it's talking about high-dollar basses-- "I'd never buy such an expensive bass without trying it out."

I understand this line of thinking. It kind of makes sense, in theory. But in my world, if I only bought basses I could play first, I’d have whatever Fender or Ibanez my local guitar shops have to offer.

Nothing against Fender or Ibanez. They make some wonderful basses. But I sometimes enjoy high-end basses too... and my local & regional guitar shops do not stock boutique gear (If they do, it's usually a fancy Les Paul or a Custom Shop Strat or Tele. Never a bass).

So I have two choices:
Choice #1: Fly to California, Chicago, New York or Florida to play the instruments that interest me, because no one within a couple hundred miles of my home sells Fodera, Sadowsky, Elrick, MTD, Suhr or even Nash. Sometimes I might see a PRS, Brubaker or Ken Smith in the DC area (a couple of hours away from me). But usually that's just one or two, and many times they're entry level instruments.

Choice #2: Shop online using Google & YouTube to get as educated as I can and buy guitars and basses without ever holding them in my hand or plugging them in.

Since return shipping is cheaper than airfare, I choose the latter. Almost every bass I’ve ever owned has been purchased this way. Most times it works out. But on the very rare occasion it doesn’t, the cost to send back a $6000 bass is pretty-much the same as a $500 bass (except for the insurance). And if dealing with Guitar Center (yuck!) or Sweetwater, they have really inexpensive shipping rates, so the return shipping is negligible, if they send you a label.

Dealers who sell online understand this risk. And as long as return policies are not abused, they’re happy to accommodate. That's why they're online. They understand we have to be able to try out a bass, even if we can't visit their showroom. And I assume that risk is factored into the cost of doing business?

Of course, I’ll do all the homework I can. But I will never let the price tag of an instrument keep me from buying, even if I've never played it (let's not get started on custom built basses... what a crapshoot!).

Who here buys basses without trying them out? Who refuses to do so? Why or why not?
Who gets a boutique bass built for them with the mindset of return shipping is cheaper? As far as I know, boutique basses are non returnable. You could sell it online, but you aren't gonna get your 4 - 6 - beyond, grand back. That's for sure.
 
I buy from Sweetwater. Their customer service is exceptional for retail....not just music retail.

While I don't normally do this, but I've had "shootouts" where I buy multiple like items. The one I like is the one I keep.
I bought an Ibanez AS93 from them a while back and it was backordered and then longer than predicted. But when they got it, they sent me the one with the best top out of the batch they got. And it showed up in tune. They're service is great.
 
I live in very remote Australia...there is literally one major boutique bass specific shop in the whole of Australia and very few others stock much more than the basics and mid level players. We have little choice when it comes to trying before you buy for anything outside the general lines. I have bought nearly every bass I have owned unplayed and the only time it was an issue was when i bought one of those Goth epiphone Tbird bass that was super cool looking but play-ability one tone were not for me. Even the expensive basses I have bought have been sight unseen/unplayed and always will be pretty much..unless i want a new generic Yawn bass.
 
Of all the dozens I've owned over the last 20 years, I've only played 9 or so in person first. When you only have GC around and they don't carry what you're looking for you don't really have a choice. If you're looking for something used specifically you definitely don't have a choice. Then there's custom basses...
 
Didn't read them all. Sorry. I've bought 20ish basses and guitars online, sight unseen. 95% of these were exactly correct, though not always what I was hoping for. With all the majors, send it back, no problem, no cost. With GC used, you pay shipping to local shop, try it there...or take it home, or ship to home, for 45 days (I think) then return to store.


The occasional ebay or other (TB??) site, if it didn't trip my trigger, I just put it back up for sale. Lose a buck or two, learn some stuff.
 
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I did it once, but I knew what I was looking for exactly, it was cheap and I wouldn’t do it with an expensive bass, unless I knew what I was getting (manufacturer that I trust...etc).
The bass I bought without trying is my main gigging bass since I bought it...
 
Every bass I've bought I've tried out first. Never felt comfortable with the idea of buying a bass or any bass gear without trying it out first.... until now.... awaiting my Sire V7 from Thomann in Germany. never played one and never seen one in the flesh its just the reviews and TBers comments got me all worked up about it, Hopefully it'll live up to expectations!!
 
All my instruments except the sax have been bought sight unseen, but only because the go-to music dealer in Europe has a very lax return policy. It's become a sport among some to just have a ton of stuff delivered, play on it a bit, then send it back, repeat ad nauseam. No intent of ever buying anything. I don't like it. If I ever buy something it's because I actually want it. I only return when it doesn't work out at all, but the worst I had to do to make one of my cheapos playable was fret dressing, which falls within my realm of expertise. There'd have to be some massive flaw I couldn't deal with.
 
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Since return shipping is cheaper than airfare, I choose the latter.
Makes sense, and I might do the same except that I've found most online music shops here in Australia don't offer returns, or some only accept returns of unopened items, or some have returns policies indicating they'll decide case-by-case whether to accept an item back.

(I'm talking here about the change-of-mind or satisfaction guarantee type returns necessary for trying out an unfamiliar bass; all Australian retailers are legally obligated to provide refunds on faulty items.)
 
I'd do it.
Here's why.
The reality of the world is that stores only have mass produced trash anymore. They never carry anything "nice", so it would come from an order.
Also, some of the the highest quality basses out there are custom, or small "build to order", shops. There is no way to try them out. You either trust the brand or you don't.
 
even the "normal" stuff, lets say you were between a Kiesel or a Sadowsky.

I see those in person (pre-covid, in the gigging days) from time to time, sadowsky basses pretty often. I've played lots of them - but i see a lot of everything, paying and teaching music for a living. A Kiesel is not a wildly unique thing; but a regular dude who plays for fun with a few buddies is unlikely to run into many of them.

then if you decide you're between an Adamovic or a... i don't know, valenti or something like that. well known builders that seem to do good work, but even I don't recall seeing either of those in person.

the trick is knowing what you are looking for.. I can tell from photos, pending an honest seller, if I will like a bass. string spacing, pickups, other specific features. That comes from years and years of not only buying and selling instruments, but playing them for hours and hours per day. I've fine-tuned my taste.

it also really, really helps if you can set it up yourself. Whenever I get something new I know I have to take a few hours and get the neck to .010, strings to 1/16" off the last fret, and so on.
 
I’ve seen this said a lot around TB and I’m not sure I agree with it.

It seems to pop up a lot. Sometimes it's advice to someone looking for a bass-- "Don't buy it til you play it first." Sometimes it's talking about high-dollar basses-- "I'd never buy such an expensive bass without trying it out."

I understand this line of thinking. It kind of makes sense, in theory. But in my world, if I only bought basses I could play first, I’d have whatever Fender or Ibanez my local guitar shops have to offer.

Nothing against Fender or Ibanez. They make some wonderful basses. But I sometimes enjoy high-end basses too... and my local & regional guitar shops do not stock boutique gear (If they do, it's usually a fancy Les Paul or a Custom Shop Strat or Tele. Never a bass).

So I have two choices:
Choice #1: Fly to California, Chicago, New York or Florida to play the instruments that interest me, because no one within a couple hundred miles of my home sells Fodera, Sadowsky, Elrick, MTD, Suhr or even Nash. Sometimes I might see a PRS, Brubaker or Ken Smith in the DC area (a couple of hours away from me). But usually that's just one or two, and many times they're entry level instruments.

Choice #2: Shop online using Google & YouTube to get as educated as I can and buy guitars and basses without ever holding them in my hand or plugging them in.

Since return shipping is cheaper than airfare, I choose the latter. Almost every bass I’ve ever owned has been purchased this way. Most times it works out. But on the very rare occasion it doesn’t, the cost to send back a $6000 bass is pretty-much the same as a $500 bass (except for the insurance). And if dealing with Guitar Center (yuck!) or Sweetwater, they have really inexpensive shipping rates, so the return shipping is negligible, if they send you a label.

Dealers who sell online understand this risk. And as long as return policies are not abused, they’re happy to accommodate. That's why they're online. They understand we have to be able to try out a bass, even if we can't visit their showroom. And I assume that risk is factored into the cost of doing business?

Of course, I’ll do all the homework I can. But I will never let the price tag of an instrument keep me from buying, even if I've never played it (let's not get started on custom built basses... what a crapshoot!).

Who here buys basses without trying them out? Who refuses to do so? Why or why not?
I never played the Wal I bought on ebay, nor the two custom basses I had made, there's just no way to do so, and it all worked out great.
 
If you never buy expensive stuff, you never have to worry about buying expensive stuff online.

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There's plenty of places around me to find a variety of basses to play, so I'm not in any danger of running out of new things to try. The idea of buying a bass that doesn't 'fit' me for a large amount of unrecoverable coin doesn't sit well at all.

But I'm inherently pretty cheap and have never paid close to $1000 for any bass.
 
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