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Ibanez basses, 1979-1987

Hello all,
Picking up old thread looking for info— do the RB 850s -reviewed above- have the same size neck pocket or use same sized necks as the RB 824? thanks.... trying to swap necks and get a fretless bass up and running using an RB 850 body...
I can't say with 100% certainty, but I can assume that they interchange.
I have swapped many a neck on Ibanez guitars of the same era, no issue, as long as they had the same scale length and number of frets. That insures that the heels/frets line up properly for intonation with the stock bridge location.
Since both basses have 24 frets, 34" scale and built in a factory by people that strive for consistency and efficiency, you should be good. Only way to really know is to attach the neck to the body and see if it sets up/intonates OK first. If so, proceed!
If not, you might have to move the bridge, which then causes a whole 'nother issue with the pickups and the harmonic node they are reading.
 
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Hello all,
Picking up old thread looking for info— do the RB 850s -reviewed above- have the same size neck pocket or use same sized necks as the RB 824? thanks.... trying to swap necks and get a fretless bass up and running using an RB 850 body...

not so sure about that.
I do have an RB850 and an RB760 both from the same era. And while both have 24 frets and the same scale, the neck pockets are significantly different, not least considering the end of the fingerboard which is rounder with the RB850.
 
not so sure about that.
I do have an RB850 and an RB760 both from the same era. And while both have 24 frets and the same scale, the neck pockets are significantly different, not least considering the end of the fingerboard which is rounder with the RB850.
This is why I love TB. Sharing practical experiences.
I am a little surprised the 760 and 850 have different neck pockets, being that they are from the same era. Oh well.
This is also why I have more 80s era Peavey parts basses. As long as the necks have the same amount of frets, they interchange with any body associated with that neck style.
 
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Thought I would dress up my old 86' RB630.....
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Ibanez Roadstar RS800 - 1980

As far as I know, the Roadstar basses arrived about the same time as the Musician basses. A few years ago I managed to get hold of an RS800BS in pretty good shape. I had been looking for an RS900TV, mostly because of nostalgic reasons, as my favourite bass player, Phil Lynott, used to have one for a while. They are fairly rare in Sweden. So I went for this instead, as the price was irresistible, even if it was a "burst", which I don't generally like.

Description: The Ibanez Roadster RS800 is a passive bass with a single coil pickup, of the exact same type as the MC800 and MC900 have. The shape is very similar to the MC800. The Musician has a somewhat rounder body shape, and of course a through neck, where the RS800 is a bolt-on. Another difference is that the RS800 has 21 frets where the MC800 has 22. On the RS800 you get at the truss rod at the body whereas on the MC800 you do it at the head.

The RS800 body is made of mahogny with a thin flame ash top and bottom. It is varnished in a "Brown Sunburst" which actually looks better in real life than on the picture. The neck is laminated maple, with a varnished maple fretboard. At first sight the big difference with a Musician is the head, which is a more Fender-like, with a straight four tuners, compared to the 2+2 tuner on many Ibanez from this period and also later basses. Otherwise the RS800 has the same electronics and bridge as the MC800. The controls are a passive tone and volume. My RS800 weigh in at 4.7 kg, which is a bit more than the MC800's 4.5 kg.

My RS800 has a tighter fit around the pickup than the MC800, so I can’t shove a pick in-between the pickup and the body like I can do on my MC800.

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Sound : The RS800 is surprisingly similar in sound to the MC800. I have the same strings on both. The RS800 has somewhat newer strings when tested, and was a bit more growly, but not much. It didn't have significantly less sustain, which makes me question my opinion on the sustain for the MC800, which has the through-neck. I really like the RS800 tone. In a blind test I think you could hear the difference between the two basses, but if you swapped strings between them I doubt one could decide which one is which. I interpret this as quality Japanese handiwork.

Playability: The neck feels just like I expected it to be. No surprises here. What I said for the MC800 is valid here too.



I normally don't think much about the weight on basses. I am reasonably fit. But 4.7 kg, like the MC900 at 5.1 is noticeable.

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Conclusion: A really nice bass to play. Sounds good, feels good. Not particularly versatile in the sound, but what you get is good. This could be a favourite player, maybe with a reservation for the weight, and to me personally it isn't as precious as the MC800 which I have had forever. So it could join me at the pub-gigg without me worrying too much.

Next the Ibanez Roadstar RB650.

Hello!

Nice review!
The first bass I bought was a RS 800 in 1980. Wanted obviously to buy the MC 900, but the seller at the music store wouldn't sell it to me!!!! Remember the pics in the catalogue of John McVie playing the 8 string, Sting playing the fretless, and of course Phil Lynnot playing the RS.
I think I paid around 2.400,- Norwegian kroner for the bass way back then.
Solid instrument, but I don't quite like the design. Still own the bass as I never sell any instrument I've owned.
Thanks!
 
Hello!

Nice review!
The first bass I bought was a RS 800 in 1980. Wanted obviously to buy the MC 900, but the seller at the music store wouldn't sell it to me!!!! Remember the pics in the catalogue of John McVie playing the 8 string, Sting playing the fretless, and of course Phil Lynnot playing the RS.
I think I paid around 2.400,- Norwegian kroner for the bass way back then.
Solid instrument, but I don't quite like the design. Still own the bass as I never sell any instrument I've owned.
Thanks!
My first bass I bought was a MC800. Still got it. Also have an MC900, but it doesn’t get much playtime unfortunately.
 
Hello all,
Picking up old thread looking for info— do the RB 850s -reviewed above- have the same size neck pocket or use same sized necks as the RB 824? thanks.... trying to swap necks and get a fretless bass up and running using an RB 850 body...
I'll also pick up an old thread and reply.

I have both, and I could measure. But the RS 824 and 924 (which I assume you are talking about, not RB) are so massive and the RB 850 so svelte for a 24 fret 34" scale that I cannot imagine the swap working. Also the three piece maple necks with large headstock and large tuners on the RS824/924 is heavy -- it mates well to the ash body of the original, but would be very neck heavy on the Basswood 850, which is my main gigging bass.

An RB850 fretless would be a monster bass; those pickups are hot, articulate, and versatile.
 
I'll also pick up an old thread and reply.

I have both, and I could measure. But the RS 824 and 924 (which I assume you are talking about, not RB) are so massive and the RB 850 so svelte for a 24 fret 34" scale that I cannot imagine the swap working. Also the three piece maple necks with large headstock and large tuners on the RS824/924 is heavy -- it mates well to the ash body of the original, but would be very neck heavy on the Basswood 850, which is my main gigging bass.

An RB850 fretless would be a monster bass; those pickups are hot, articulate, and versatile.
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I'd like to pick your brain if I may.

I have a bead on a very nice Ibanez Roadstar that looks to be in very good condition. I notice you have one in your collection, so would you be so kind as to give me a quick appraisal on playability/sound etc? I owned an Ibanez MC824 Musician 40 years ago (and loved it) but it had single coils and sounded very jazz bass like. I'm particularly interested in the PJ configuration.

Many thanks

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I just found this page. I was doing some research on the Ibanez RB850. I purchased a new "white" one back in the early 80s and in no time it turned yellow. It was sanded down an repainted a couple of times and not it's looks like a :black relic". The headstock and the entire neck are now natural but I'm thinking about restoring it. It still plays as well as the the day I bought it. I would love to find another one to gig with. I've had pretty much everything and I still think this is the best bast I've ever owned and my personal favorite.
 
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I just found this page. I was doing some research on the Ibanez RB850. I purchased a new "white" one back in the early 80s and in no time it turned yellow. It was sanded down a repainted a couple of times and not it's looks like a :black relic". The headstock and the entire neck are now natural but I'm thinking about restoring it. It still plays as well as the the day I bought it. I would love to find another one to gig with. I've had pretty much everything and I still think this is the best bast I've ever owned and my personal favorite.
I have had two black RB850 s and they are great. Recently sold one to a friend.
 
A friend of mine, Bullen, told me to write reviews of my Ibanez basses. I am neither a great bass player or someone who knows a lot about basses, but I have a few Ibanez basses from the period 1979-1987, so take it for what it is. Maybe someone finds it useful. :)

So I have a bunch of Ibanez basses, from 1979 to 1987, and as a reference I also an Ibanez acoustic bass from 2003 and a Soundgear SR700 from 2011 (as well as a three Warwicks, a Teisco and a noname Pbass from parts, and I am building a bass too). I will mostly write about the Ibanez basses in the order they were made. (The original thread of this is in Swedish, so if you are impatient you can ogle the pictures there.) I'll translate one or two pieces every few days or so.

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Some of my basses, from left - Ibanez: SR700 (-11) [top], RB850 (-87), RB960, RB760, MC924, RB850, RB650 (-84) (sold), MC900 (-79), MC800 (-79). AX50 (-85) [bottom]

Navigation links & Table of contents of what is to come.

A bit of history first

Nothing about Ibanez basses, but a bit of context. The first bas that I played, I was given by a friend to my mother. Igor Berukstis, he was a defector from Soviet Union, and he defected in Japan during a tour. This was in the seventies I think. He moved to Hawaii and then on to the mainland US where I have been told that he played with many of the big jazz legends. That he was allowed to travel was probably a sign that he was very good. His wife and kid was held "hostage" against defection, which he did anyway.

He came to Sweden during the late seventies where he lived for a number of years. I was twelve or thirteen, when he gave me my first bass. A Tiesco, built in Japan in 1966. Maybe he brought it all the way from Japan. It is a bit of an unusual bass, as I have never seen a picture of one exactly the same. I played on this for a year or so when I took lessons. But after joining my first rock band, my mother lent me money and I bought an Ibanez Musician MC800.

Strings: On all the Ibanez basses I have Earnie Ball Cobalt Hybrid Slinkys, 45-105, so you have a reference when I talk about sound of them.

Next: Ibanez Musician MC800
Superb Thread. Great job. Bravo to you for doing this.
 
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Maybe you wouldn’t mind writing a mini review? :)
My Destroyer is a 2014 reissue....on the PJ model, like mine, the main difference from the '83s (besides the inlays) are the pickup positioning - on the 2014, the pickups are proximal to each other whereas the '83 PJs the pickups are much further apart (and further still on the late 70s Destroyers, which were well made Explorers with PJ pickups), so my review would be pretty invalidated for the purposes of this awesome Ibanez thread and review database
Holy Rez Thread, Batman.......turns out, years later, I did a review .....

 
I have had two black RB850 s and they are great. Recently sold one to a friend.
As of this afternoon I purchased a second white one. I located it online at my local Guitar Center. It was listed for $499. I played it and immediately wanted it. I got it for $300 and couldn’t be happier. I’d buy another one if I found one. Great basses!
 
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I'd like to pick your brain if I may.

I have a bead on a very nice Ibanez Roadstar that looks to be in very good condition. I notice you have one in your collection, so would you be so kind as to give me a quick appraisal on playability/sound etc? I owned an Ibanez MC824 Musician 40 years ago (and loved it) but it had single coils and sounded very jazz bass like. I'm particularly interested in the PJ configuration.

Many thanks

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Just seeing this. The 1981 RS924 I bought in London while studying there in college (and still have) became the core of my still growing Ibanez collection.

As another TB’er said, it’s very much a hot DiMarzio P pickup sound. I’d guess hotter — this bass has the best sounding hottest P pickup I’ve ever played.

The bass is wired with a three way switch instead of a blend. You may wish to change that for more versatility. I don’t find the soloed J tone to be useful for more than copping a Stevie Wonder Clav tone and jamming on “I Wish.”

My preamp worked until the early 2000’s. Can’t report on it much. Usual bass and treble boost, sounded fine. I prefer passive anyway and these hot pickups don’t need anything added. Active/passive switch so it’s no big deal.

This is a big bass. The P proportions of the neck — expanded to 24 frets — and the glorious paddle headstock — coupled to an ash body — makes for just a big old bass all around. This is not a bad thing. It balances well and is comfortable to play.



Here I am playing it outdoors on a cold Halloween! This was my first time out with my bandleader as just a duo, so please forgive any uncertainty in my playing!

But you don’t really need to be Superman to wield it. Its meant to be played like a Precision — it’s no svelte SR — but ot has never felt clunky or wrong in my hands.

The only player I’d recommend not getting this bass is maybe someone who lives only on the first few frets — as the length of the neck and its mounting to the body does put that position at a slightly longer reach than a normal P bass, and that extra reach might be uncomfortable if that’s the only place you hang out. As a novice, I noticed this more back in 1998 when I was still learning but the bass is entirely comfortable for me now. I am 6’3” for reference.
 
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