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Ibanez btb vs dingwall combustion HELP

Hey guy I'm ready to upgrade my 5 string after updating my 4 I'm looking for a bass that could hold a low G# with good tension. I've used a btb in the past and liked it profile and the fact it's a 35 makes it a nice fit. How hard would the fanned fret and the 37 inch b string to get use too. Help me out guys. I use moderate distortion and clean. I'm a big fan of bands such as volumes meshuggah periphery etc etc
 
Nolly from Periphery uses two Combustions live. You'll need to get custom Circle K gauges to make a low G# tuning work well but the end results are WELL worth it.
Not that you have any bias as to which is a better bass.:D

I've played the Combustion briefly and it was not particularly challenging to feel comfortable. I'm sure if I'd dedicated any regular practice I'd feel completely at home.
 
Yeah the main thing that pulling me toward the combustion is the fact nolly uses them and because I love
Periphery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCp8vE1ZT0g

That is exactly why I will eventually own a Dingwall. Will I ever be able to play like Nolly? Probably not, but that won't distract me from GASing for a Combustion and that low end goodness.

I just wish Nolly would release more of these vids. I love this track like this. But Periphery as they're actually recorded? Not at all.
 
I've owned a BTB You cannot get the tension you need (only my opinion) or want with the BTB to run that .175 F# (and make it sound really great) the BTB is an incredible bass that has much to offer but I would still say even stock the Dingwall has more punch and clarity. As was recommended try it out stock and then make any mods you see necessary. The 37" scale makes a HUGE difference.
 
Echoing what everyone else has said for obvious reason: Combustion, no contest.

The fanned frets take all of a handful of minutes to get used to (unless you a play a lot of chords with wide voicings past the 17th) and that two extra inches of scale length makes an enormous difference in punch and clarity when you tune down that low.
 
I had a Dingwall Combustion 5 string in the blonde colour with maple neck and I was playing it in Drop A at the time with the Dingwall strings on the bass. It was a great bass but I didn't really love the colour and I was really digging my Spector's at the time.

I just came across a new Combustion 5 in the nice Blue finish they offer and it's really caught my eye. My last combustion didn't have the electronic switch either, I think it was one of the first models. No doubt they're killer basses and with the right strings you'll be able to get an awesome tone and clarity out of the bass. The fanned frets were not an issue for me at all.
 
I purchased a 5 string ABII a few months ago - not a Combustion but it's the same scale so I thought I'd chime in.

On getting used to the multi-scale fingerboard: your fingers know where to go if you let them. I felt reasonably comfortable very quickly, and after a few weeks it felt completely natural. The biggest adjustment in my case was forcing myself to use 1-2-4 fingering, because the lower strings are just too long scale for me to do anything else comfortably. Your hands may be different, or you may use 1-2-4 already.

On G# tuning: Downtuned to A, my low string sounds as clear as a B on any conventional fiver I've had the privilege of playing. I think G# is probably feasible but haven't tried it. I don't think G# is feasible on shorter scale instruments, IMO.

I'm hooked on my Dingwall. I highly recommend one.