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Important Guitarists?

#42
davy4575 said:
Nirvana sure as hell sold quite a few albums for not being "real" music. Tape op has a great article a few years back on the producer of sublime prior to the death of their singer and how they recorded some of their pop hits. Chili peps have had a few hits over the years too. Does she play good in the sense that she grooves with the band? Is it rewarding to play music with her? Are YOU open to new genres of music?
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Wow, I just realized how badly I phrased that. I actually love Chili Peps, Nirvana, and Sublime, and am really glad she listens to them because I, for one, love the guitar and bass in RHCP, Cobain was a great grunge guitarist, and Sublime is an excellent fusion of rock and ska. My bad. I also really like Green Day, especially their earlier stuff.

Okay, scratch the "Real". She doesn't listen to much variety, is what I meant.
 
#43
cool, Im not trying to harass you. The reason I suggested some of the guitarists I did was to open up complete other genres of music and tone. They might not be emotionally relevant to you or her, as in you might not like them, but they may have profound effects by taking you both outside of your norms. sometimes just a few seconds of a song or artist may add an angle that you might not otherwise find. Most importantly though, If you got a really cool thing where youre creating music that means something to you and it feels good to play, puts a smile on your face...influences dont matter so much then.
 
#45
davy4575 said:
cool, Im not trying to harass you. The reason I suggested some of the guitarists I did was to open up complete other genres of music and tone. They might not be emotionally relevant to you or her, as in you might not like them, but they may have profound effects by taking you both outside of your norms. sometimes just a few seconds of a song or artist may add an angle that you might not otherwise find. Most importantly though, If you got a really cool thing where youre creating music that means something to you and it feels good to play, puts a smile on your face...influences dont matter so much then.
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No, it's okay. I do really like playing music with her, as we're pretty good friends and it's great to have something like that in common. I'm trying to stretch my musical horizons, too. I really don't listen to enough jazz (I know Pastorius and that's about it), blues, or classical, and I keep meaning to, as well as country and reggae. I mean, there's a lot of stuff I'm missing, too. I just try and do my best to help her out, since if we're going to be playing music together, I really want to see her improving, especially since she hasn't been taking lessons very long.
 
#46
I can dig that. I need to infuse jazz and other influences too. I used to get baked and play to one song from a radio station, switch to a different radio station and then do another song, etc. etc. almost every night for a long time. I havent in a long time but I should probably take my own advice and get some diversification going again lol.
 
#47
In the OP you told us what she doesn't like but not what she does like. I could suggest 100 guitarists but that would be a list of guitarists I like. Start her off slowly. Have her pick apart the guitarists of her favorite bands and find out who their influences are. She'll figure out what she likes and what draws her in and what motivates her to dig deeper. Who gives a rat's ass if she can name check popular/talented guitarists? It's almost like a peer pressure thing and that's not gonna be fun.
 
#49
davy4575 said:
I can dig that. I need to infuse jazz and other influences too. I used to get baked and play to one song from a radio station, switch to a different radio station and then do another song, etc. etc. almost every night for a long time. I havent in a long time but I should probably take my own advice and get some diversification going again lol.
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Hahaha. I think I'm the only person at my jazz camp who doesn't know what artists they're talking about when the clinicians give presentations.

Gluvhand said:
In the OP you told us what she doesn't like but not what she does like. I could suggest 100 guitarists but that would be a list of guitarists I like. Start her off slowly. Have her pick apart the guitarists of her favorite bands and find out who their influences are. She'll figure out what she likes and what draws her in and what motivates her to dig deeper. Who gives a rat's ass if she can name check popular/talented guitarists? It's almost like a peer pressure thing and that's not gonna be fun.
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Thanks. I'll let her do that. I think I'm going to set aside about ten minutes after band practice where we can all share songs/videos of artists we like with the others.
chungweishan said:
So what she doesn't listen to your real music? What matters more is the music that she listens to inspires her to play guitar.

I listen to none of those guitarists listed. I know of them, just never cared enough about their music to study their technique. I might learn bits and pieces, or get musical cues and ideas... but that's about my extent of guitar-hero worship. While I'm aware that who ever I enjoy listening to probably was influenced from some guy who was influenced by another. I could research the source-influential player, but most of the time it's not the type of music I enjoy in the first place.

Heck, most of the bassists people mention all the time in the forums I don't listen to either. In fact, most of the time, I have absolutely no clue who is playing guitar and bass in the songs I like. It just never mattered much to me.

But hey, that's just me. My guitar and bass playing has been influenced by many artists spanning generations and genres, as a natural progression from the kind of music I like at the time. And not just going, "My important guitarist is more important than yours."
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Again, sorry about the "real music" bit. I hate when people say that and I didn't mean it like that. Yeah, I think I'll let her do whatever. You're totally right and I'm probably taking an over-interest in this, to the point of pushiness.
 
#50
Ok, here are my inputs
Gary Moore - before his blues days, although still awesome in his blues days. Great phrasing, awesome feel
Steve Vai - Played in a way no one else did before him, very imaginative
Tosin Abasi - Again, taking guitar technique to the next level
Nuno Bettencourt - An amazing guitarist
Vitto Bratta - again, unique style

Plus the ones already mentioned, Dimebag, Hendrix, oh, Paul Gilbert as well, Malmsteen .............yadda yadda
 
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#51
QUOTE="Jason Wilson, post: 16034388, member: 225848"]Ok, here are my inputs
Gary Moore - before his blues days, although still awesome in his blues days. Great phrasing, awesome feel
Steve Vai - Played in a way no one else did before him, very imaginative
Tosin Abasi - Again, taking guitar technique to the next level
Nuno Bettencourt - An amazing guitarist
Vitto Bratta - again, unique style

Plus the ones already mentioned, Dimebag, Hendrix, oh, Paul Gilbert as well, Malmsteen .............yadda yadda[/QUOTE]
+1 on the pre-blues Gary Moore. Wildly, and I dislike the term, under rated.
 
#55
Gravedigger Dav said:
Omit like the first really innovative electric guitarist? Surely you jest. Charlie changed the guitar from a "the people up close can hear him" rythmn instrument to a lead instrument. But then maybe old stuff is out of date and irrelevant, like me.
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Dude, I was noting that he had been omitted from the list, *I* added him to it. Reading comprehension much?

And you know, I was digging that you added Chet Atkins, but now this. Really.
 

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