• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

in defense of PJs

PJs

  • love 'em!

  • hate 'em!

  • i like 'em all!

  • i won't commit unless i can change my vote!


Results are only viewable after voting.
The best sounding, most balanced P/Js are the ones with the reverse P pickup (IMHO). I have a number of them (Spectors, Brubakers, Fenders, etc).

Screenshot_20210522-161545_Reverb (1).jpg
20221107_170810.jpg
Screenshot_20220908-173532_Gallery.jpg
received_651777319037600.jpeg
20201129_131253.jpg
 
If you expect a PJ to be either a P or a J, or both, you're going to he disappointed. They're their own thing.
Amen to that!!! They are PJ, and it's different, but just as good or valid as any other bass tone. Just what "is" a P-tone or J-tone anyway? People using pedals out the wazoo to change their tone, to sound like "what"? This tone chasing thing is crazy. Unless you are a recording artist, in my opinion, there is no "specific" target tone. Just my opinion. I agree with you.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JRA and Quadzilla
Amen to that!!! They are PJ, and it's different, but just as good or valid as any other bass tone. Just what "is" a P-tone or J-tone anyway? People using pedals out the wazoo to change their tone, to sound like "what"? This tone chasing thing is crazy. Unless you are a recording artist, in my opinion, there is no "specific" target tone. Just my opinion. I agree with you.
When I go into the studio, I go straight into the board with the volumes and tones cranked all the way, and let the engineer and bl eq it the way they like it.
 
What is the definition of "PJ"? Is it a Precision (Fender or otherwise) with an added J pickup in the bridge position? Or is it literally ANY bass with one split P style pickup and one J style pickup?

Me, I like basses with two pickups, but I also like basses with one pickup.
 
I am a Jazz player pretty much but this bass scratches an itch for me . Sounds way different than my other basses and when gigging it I can always hear it very well . Most of the time I use just the P pickup but blend a little bit of the J pickup for bite . It has an Audere 2 band pre so it's simple to control .

20211007_094305.jpg
 
I was reading these posts last week and one thread in particular really kept me up at night trying to understand the strong opinions as to why P/J's have a built in flaw.

I wish I could remember the exact post, but I don't. I have been playing bass for three decades and I have never once heard such strong opinions along the lines of "It has to be either a Pbass or a jazz bass, but a P/J is inherently wrong". I just don't get it and have never encountered that problem. I like P/J's and the sound of most any bass.
 
I am a Jazz player pretty much but this bass scratches an itch for me . Sounds way different than my other basses and when gigging it I can always hear it very well . Most of the time I use just the P pickup but blend a little bit of the J pickup for bite . It has an Audere 2 band pre so it's simple to control .

View attachment 4905506

I had one and I miss it! I should have removed that Big Single and put in a Big Split at the bridge.
 
My fretted bass (I dont play gigs with it often ) is a Fender Precision special . Converted it to a passive pj, and put a duncan sjb-2 in the bridge. My number one with frets. Love the growl of the overwound pickup and a bit of "pee" mixed in for taste;).

My former teacher Jeff Andrews had a killer p and experimented with the j in different spots finally settling on the 60's position.

Mine below
image.jpg
 
Last edited: