Works here - maybe country related. Just Google " the t.bone IEM 200 - 820 MHz "
IMO the IEM 200 line sits right in the gap between the cheap stuff that is not reliable enough for proper gigs and
the professional stuff that costs an arm and a leg.
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In ear monitors
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Works here - maybe country related. Just Google " the t.bone IEM 200 - 820 MHz "
IMO the IEM 200 line sits right in the gap between the cheap stuff that is not reliable enough for proper gigs and
the professional stuff that costs an arm and a leg.
s0c9
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Indeed it does.. having owned one (the Carvin) for a couple of yrs, it looks identical !!
When you switched from the Carvin system to the Sennheiser you use now, was the audio improvement really noticeable?
s0c9
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IT was noticeable, yes.. but it wasn't night and day. I also changed buds around that time (I don't recall exact time) going from 1964 Qi's to A8's.
The big thing with the G3 was having determined the best "band" for my area ("G" - based on the most open frequencies) it does a frequency scan to find the best open channel and auto-selects it at the push of a button. The other great thing? Pretty much zero dropouts and interference.
I used the Senn frequency finder to determine the best model "A", "A-1", "B" or "G") - Sennheiser USA - Headphones and Headsets - Microphones
BE warned that Senn makes them in other bands that are not legal in the US, so if you go to Reverb or eBay make sure that you are only looking at "A", "A-1", "B" or "G" bands.. "C" and "D" (I think "H" too) bands are not legal here.
I skipped most of this thread, but I just wanted to comment that if you figure out how to place your foot on your in ears and rock out, please take a picture.
#1 protect your ears! Read some of the posts on here about tinnitus.
If you can't afford IEM's use earplugs as needed which is probably most of the time. It may not sound great to you, but it's what the audience hears that is important. The question is what's more important: the sound while you're playing on stage or the sound of everything else all the time for the rest of your life? My point is if you can't afford IEM'S you can get by with earplugs.
As others have pointed out it's also important whether you can get an aux feed for your own mix and if there will still be wedges.
I use sure sel215's. We still have wedges which I point away from me. I only put guitar, vocals and a bit of mix in them. No bass. I get bass from my amp. The IEM'S act as earplugs that allow me to hear a bit more of what I need to.
Honestly I could have sold my rig and bought a good DI and three driver IEM'S and have a better sound (for me at least) but for some arcane reason I'm still attached to the rig because it sounds sooo good. But then I block it out and keep it low LOL. If money was that tight I'd sell my rig and get good quality IEM'S and wireless (provided of course everything supports that as far as mix and on stage volume). I love that story from the dude who forgot to turn on his amp! Too bad for those in your band clinging to wedges. They can go IEM or get bass from the wedges however it may sound.
If you can't afford IEM's use earplugs as needed which is probably most of the time. It may not sound great to you, but it's what the audience hears that is important. The question is what's more important: the sound while you're playing on stage or the sound of everything else all the time for the rest of your life? My point is if you can't afford IEM'S you can get by with earplugs.
As others have pointed out it's also important whether you can get an aux feed for your own mix and if there will still be wedges.
I use sure sel215's. We still have wedges which I point away from me. I only put guitar, vocals and a bit of mix in them. No bass. I get bass from my amp. The IEM'S act as earplugs that allow me to hear a bit more of what I need to.
Honestly I could have sold my rig and bought a good DI and three driver IEM'S and have a better sound (for me at least) but for some arcane reason I'm still attached to the rig because it sounds sooo good. But then I block it out and keep it low LOL. If money was that tight I'd sell my rig and get good quality IEM'S and wireless (provided of course everything supports that as far as mix and on stage volume). I love that story from the dude who forgot to turn on his amp! Too bad for those in your band clinging to wedges. They can go IEM or get bass from the wedges however it may sound.
Out of curiosity I did a search for IEM/wireless mic frequencies legal in Europe and came up with this:
Radio microphone and in ear monitor frequency guide
Did the same for US:
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I hope this helps anyone looking into going with wireless IEM units.
Radio microphone and in ear monitor frequency guide
Did the same for US:
Link Removed
I hope this helps anyone looking into going with wireless IEM units.
I literally just pulled the trigger on an iem system yesterday. I've avoided it for many years because I thought that you had to spend big bucks for anything usable. But what i saw on amazon coupled with the reviews at least gave me hope, and the price was low enough to take the gamble.
After reading a lot of reviews and considering my needs and purposes, I went with this:
Transmitter and receiver for $90 (comes with useless ear buds)
Amazon.com: ANLEON S2 UHF Stereo Wireless Monitor System In-ear System 670-680MHZ (1 Transmitter 1 Receiver): Musical Instruments
Dual driver earbuds for $19 (silicone ear tips apparently suck)
Amazon.com: KZ ZST Dynamic Hybrid Dual Driver In Ear Earphones (Black Without Mic): Musical Instruments
six pair of memory foam ear tips for $7
Amazon.com: Earphone Tips New Bee Premium Replacement Earbud Tips Blocking Out Ambient Noise Memory Foam Earbuds Inner 4.9mm for Headphones with 5mm-7mm Tips ( Red, 6 Pairs, S/M/L ): Home Audio & Theater
I get the buds and tips tomorrow. Looks like the main unit is shipping from Mars and I'll be seeing it in late July. I won't be able to give you a review until then, but there are plenty of reviews on all that stuff all over the internet.
After reading a lot of reviews and considering my needs and purposes, I went with this:
Transmitter and receiver for $90 (comes with useless ear buds)
Amazon.com: ANLEON S2 UHF Stereo Wireless Monitor System In-ear System 670-680MHZ (1 Transmitter 1 Receiver): Musical Instruments
Dual driver earbuds for $19 (silicone ear tips apparently suck)
Amazon.com: KZ ZST Dynamic Hybrid Dual Driver In Ear Earphones (Black Without Mic): Musical Instruments
six pair of memory foam ear tips for $7
Amazon.com: Earphone Tips New Bee Premium Replacement Earbud Tips Blocking Out Ambient Noise Memory Foam Earbuds Inner 4.9mm for Headphones with 5mm-7mm Tips ( Red, 6 Pairs, S/M/L ): Home Audio & Theater
I get the buds and tips tomorrow. Looks like the main unit is shipping from Mars and I'll be seeing it in late July. I won't be able to give you a review until then, but there are plenty of reviews on all that stuff all over the internet.
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One of the big advantages of a band using IEM's is that the FOH is not fighting with loud monitors that muddy the sound up like crazy. The FOH sounds really clean with IEM's.
That's what i've been doing for a while now. It really only marginally protects my ears when I use the "musicians" plugs and when I use the tight seal ones I simply cannot play and sing well about 20% of the time. And at age 63 I have the hearing loss to prove it, but not as bad as a lot of older guys I play with.
@Robroy......The inexpensive option for getting into IEMs isn't such a bad idea although in time you might find you want to upgrade. No big deal there.
You really don't have to go to the $400 and up range to get a decent working system.
Galaxy Audio makes some decent economy systems for around $199 or so. If and when you decide to move up a little theirs might be the way to go for you. In my last band the other 3 members had the Galaxys and were just fine with them. I have the Carvin system but did so due to the multiple channel function so yeah, I paid $400.
You really don't have to go to the $400 and up range to get a decent working system.
Galaxy Audio makes some decent economy systems for around $199 or so. If and when you decide to move up a little theirs might be the way to go for you. In my last band the other 3 members had the Galaxys and were just fine with them. I have the Carvin system but did so due to the multiple channel function so yeah, I paid $400.
The first classic rock band I ever joined had a fairly nice Shure in-ear system, but nobody knew how to use it. This was around the turn of the century. It put me off in-ear systems.
We had electronic drums and no back line at all. i did learn that when all the crowd hears is the FOH, the sound can really be amazing. But the bad is that the buds had no bass and I often could not hear myself - at all. On one song at a gig I discovered I'd been playing the song two frets off for who knows how long.
They were always hopelessly distorted and nobody would listen to my comments about over driving the transmitter.
Fast forward to this year. I just joined a band that uses in-ears and uses a separate channel to power the one monitor that I use. They have suggested I only bring a DI and the bass can be in the FOH and that monitor. It got me thinking, if one of the aux out channels is dedicated to me, I could get an in-ear system for me and custom set the volume for every input. So I checked amazon.
I was shocked at what has happened to pricing and quality. I had no intention of actually buying anything, but when I saw what might be had, I spent a few hours reading reviews and articles and pulled the trigger. We'll see if it matters. One great thing is that I'll have complete control over what goes into my feed.
And this means I am again in a band with no back line, though we do use accoustic drums. The kick is miked and I'm hoping the rest of the kit bleeds into the rest of the mics. If not, I may pull out one of my studio condensers to feed only the wireless aux outputs.
We had electronic drums and no back line at all. i did learn that when all the crowd hears is the FOH, the sound can really be amazing. But the bad is that the buds had no bass and I often could not hear myself - at all. On one song at a gig I discovered I'd been playing the song two frets off for who knows how long.
They were always hopelessly distorted and nobody would listen to my comments about over driving the transmitter.
Fast forward to this year. I just joined a band that uses in-ears and uses a separate channel to power the one monitor that I use. They have suggested I only bring a DI and the bass can be in the FOH and that monitor. It got me thinking, if one of the aux out channels is dedicated to me, I could get an in-ear system for me and custom set the volume for every input. So I checked amazon.
I was shocked at what has happened to pricing and quality. I had no intention of actually buying anything, but when I saw what might be had, I spent a few hours reading reviews and articles and pulled the trigger. We'll see if it matters. One great thing is that I'll have complete control over what goes into my feed.
And this means I am again in a band with no back line, though we do use accoustic drums. The kick is miked and I'm hoping the rest of the kit bleeds into the rest of the mics. If not, I may pull out one of my studio condensers to feed only the wireless aux outputs.
My head has a direct out and I always run through FOH. I keep mu stage volume up just enough for the other musicians to hear me (mostly the drummer) and since all of us were running IEMs each with a dedicated feed (my mixer has 6 monitor outputs) we each mixed our own monitors to suit.
For us, the acoustic drum kit was fully miked so a light drum mix in the IEM worked well.
I think once you do a little tweaking you'll like what an IEM can do in terms of both personal monitor mix and volume control. I have tinnitus and the IEM is nirvana for me!
For us, the acoustic drum kit was fully miked so a light drum mix in the IEM worked well.
I think once you do a little tweaking you'll like what an IEM can do in terms of both personal monitor mix and volume control. I have tinnitus and the IEM is nirvana for me!
Tinnitus here too. I have to say that the "control" issue was a big one with that early band. The BL thought he was the sh** and you could not even offer ideas.
At one gig, we had a really bad hum even with the mixer turned off. Nothing he did would fix it. I finally said, "hey, try unplugging the mixer." We were getting to gig time and everyone was frustrated. He said that it was off and shut up and leave it to him. I knew what was probably wrong so I pushed back, HARD. I said, just humor me. Take a second to unplug it and then I'll leave it to you. Out of utter frustration with me and rolling his eyes, he unplugged the Mixer. The humming stopped.
He was not appreciative, but the obvious (at least to me) problem was resolved with a plug adaptor and the gig was able to carry on.
Same with the in-ears. Nobody in that band seemed to understand the concept of controlling pre-amp in or out.
Since my current band is a 3 piece of like minded guys, at least that particular hurdle to IEM's is not there. And tech has improved and become much cheaper...
When it comes to 60 cycle hum I resolved long ago to run the system through a power contitioner. The power amps have their own conditioner as does my head. Both guitarists also used conditioners for their amps and pedal boards. Pretty much if there is a hum it's a bad XLR or patch cord when you set up like that.
In our case the amps were on stage at one end of the snake, and the mixer was at the other end. The mixer was on a different electric circuit. Not that I think this is the way to go, but using one of those three prong to two prong ac adapters is what fixed it. Luckily, nobody was electrocuted.
Amps on stage and mixer out front is my setup too.
I have a conditioner in the rack with the amps, another working the mixer and effects/EQ rack then still another in the rack case with my head and tuner.
If the "ground lift" from the 2 prong adapter worked then the wiring in the venue has issues!
It's a wonder nobody got zapped lips from a mic!
That is exactly right. Oh, and I'm shocked (no pun intended) how often I'll get a shock if I put my lips too close to the mic when I'm not using wireless. A lot of buildings have questionable wiring, but it also could be because the two circuits are using different phases of the 240.
