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Influences and New Music

#21
jmjbassplayer said:
Yeah, Tegan & Sara are doing great things.

Colin Greenwood? Gawd what a sound and feel. He's a buddy, and always wants to hide when I mention this to him after a gig. He's too modest. But great nonetheless. Live, he runs an SVT 8 x 10 rig with classic head, but also a powered PA subwoofer right next to it. Very rich.

JMJ
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Have you ever done the PA-style bass rig? I keep thinking I want to try it, but then I think how I dig what I'm hearing with the stuff I have now, and it'll just be a fad and more crap I have to carry and set up myself. Still, when I hear my bass coming through a well-tuned line array + sub system on a gig, I want to poop myself, and as much as I dig my B-15's, and my little Markbass combo for when I'm especially lazy, they never achieve the brown note.
 
#22
I have indeed done that. That's what I'm doing now, though the only part of the rig with me on stage is a very intense subwoofer. Everything above 180Hz is coming through the ears. Sounds like heaven, particularly because I seem to play better when the bass level is much more "mixed in", rather than over and above everything else. I listen more carefully to drums and vocals nowadays.

STILL: I'll take two 8 x 10's behind me any day of the week, my friend.

In 2000 on tour with Beck on the Midnite Vultures tour, there was a time I used a 1 x 18" Meyers sub and a 2 x 12" box on top of that with a horn. It was meaty and definitely did the brown note, but after that, I went right back to two 8 x 10's.

And I STILL might do that!

Best,
JMJ
 
#23
jmjbassplayer said:
Yeah, Tegan & Sara are doing great things.

Colin Greenwood? Gawd what a sound and feel. He's a buddy, and always wants to hide when I mention this to him after a gig. He's too modest. But great nonetheless. Live, he runs an SVT 8 x 10 rig with classic head, but also a powered PA subwoofer right next to it. Very rich.

JMJ
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nice! thanks for the info. that's so cool that you guys are friends. and with the two of you out on tour right now, what's all this nonsense about there not being any good music these days?!?!?
 
#26
jmjbassplayer said:
I have indeed done that. That's what I'm doing now, though the only part of the rig with me on stage is a very intense subwoofer. Everything above 180Hz is coming through the ears. Sounds like heaven, particularly because I seem to play better when the bass level is much more "mixed in", rather than over and above everything else. I listen more carefully to drums and vocals nowadays.

STILL: I'll take two 8 x 10's behind me any day of the week, my friend.

In 2000 on tour with Beck on the Midnite Vultures tour, there was a time I used a 1 x 18" Meyers sub and a 2 x 12" box on top of that with a horn. It was meaty and definitely did the brown note, but after that, I went right back to two 8 x 10's.

And I STILL might do that!

Best,
JMJ
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It's a winning formula since 1969. I'm about to bust out my Iron Butterfly 69 SVT with the 6146B's and brand new recones again after it sat dormant for 10 years. I know what you mean. That's why I never did the PA rig. Well, that and it was even more gigantic than an SVT at the time. But now you can get nice tiny stuff that does it. Still, nobody lets me turn up loud enough to hit the brown note anymore, so why am I even sweating it? ;)
 
#27
Viva Bridget!!! Saw Unrest once (opening for fugazi?!?! D.C. representing I guess!) and Air Miami only once as well, but those records still get the spin around my house all the time. And that bubbling 16th note picking stuff she owned still pops out in my playing quite often. She had the right ideas. A toast to the Cross.....wherever she may be....
 
#28
...and the would be Juneau, Alaska!!! Ok, got inspired and googled Bridget and was happy to find out she recently put out a new album, called "Maybe it's Reno", that includes the other 2 Unrest guys as well! Zounds! Gotta check it out!

Got me to thinking about what else I was crazy about around the time I was into Unrest...how bout Babe The Blue Ox, featuring the astonishing-on-many-levels Rose Thomson on bass? Anyone? Anyone?

Anne Eickelberg and the incredible Thinking Fellers Union 282....any recollections out there?

Or, gosh, this brings back fond memories of when I saw my favorite band at the time, Medicine, play at the Bottleneck in Lawrence, Kansas......anyone remember THAT????? ;)
 
#29
Hi Pops,

COol info on Bridget, I'm gonna get that "Maybe It's Reno" record!

I'm not super familiar with Babe The Blue Ox, but I used to go see Thinking Fellers Union, I thought they were great...Anne was awesome.

You were at the Bottleneck in Lawrence? God, what a distant memory...but I do remember it! The most insane tour ever. That's funny.

JMJ
 
#30
Wow, Medicine was the most insane tour ever? Was it the tour that did that band in? It was a great show. There are things on that 'Buried Life' album that still gives me the chills...'Never Click', fr'instance. As for you in that era, if memory serves, I recall a shaven head and stingray???? Am i close?
 
#33
jmjbassplayer said:
Derek Forbes? VERY good. Tasty. Economical. Good tones.
JMJ
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Hi Mr. J

You've probably heard this before, but Mr. Forbes sounds like he's playing for his life here! Think Simple Minds declined after he was booted out.
For your delectation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJDx-1L3V9U

Also (in your learned knowledge), don't suppose you know who Roxy's bass player was on 'Same Old Scene'?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxmZeBsr49o
Top video, don't make 'em like that anymore do they?:D

Got to get head out of the 80's:crying:

God bless!
Nick
 
#35
NickD said:
Hi Mr. J

You've probably heard this before, but Mr. Forbes sounds like he's playing for his life here! Think Simple Minds declined after he was booted out.
For your delectation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJDx-1L3V9U

Also (in your learned knowledge), don't suppose you know who Roxy's bass player was on 'Same Old Scene'?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxmZeBsr49o
Top video, don't make 'em like that anymore do they?:D

Got to get head out of the 80's:crying:

God bless!
Nick
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Dude, that Simple Minds early period stuff is for REAL. Forbes is playing the hell out of the bass on ALL those songs.

As far as the bassist on Roxy's "Same Old Scene", that was the late, great Alan Spenner. An influence on me for sure.

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Best,
JMJ
 
#37
jmjbassplayer said:
As far as the bassist on Roxy's "Same Old Scene", that was the late, great Alan Spenner. An influence on me for sure.

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Best,
JMJ
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Hi Justin,
Many thanks for the link, very interesting - much appreciated.

Alan Spenner certainly got around. Didn't he?
I also didn't realise he played on 1973 'Jesus Christ Superstar' soundtrack too. Some good grooves there....:cool:

Cheers
Nick
 
#38
jmjbassplayer said:
Nice, even just give me some tips on what I should go check out.

JMJ
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Well, you should check out the entire Os Mutantes discography, since Arnaldo played bass on the first three albums, and Liminha played on the next three:

1968: Os Mutantes
1969: Mutantes
1970: A Divina Comédia ou Ando Meio Desligado
1971: Jardim Elétrico
1972: Mutantes e Seus Cometas no País do Baurets
1973: O A e o Z

The most memorable bass playing on those albums is the bass intro to their third record, on the song "Ando Meio Desligado". They also re-recorded some of their songs in English and released them on an album called "Tecnicolor". All this stuff should be easily accessible to you, since Os Mutantes is a popular band. Well, maybe you already have all this stuff, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

What should be hard to get is Arnaldo's solo stuff. There's three notable solo albums: Lóki, Singin' Alone and Let It Bed. Unlike the Mutantes albums, I don't think these were ever released abroad. I can find them in Brazil, though. I remember seeing a nice Lóki vinyl on a store some time ago.

Well, I'll gladly help out on getting any of these.
 

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